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Re: Rankings ... ugh
« Reply #1274 on: November 01, 2023, 08:44:41 AM »
The ultimate polls are only the AP and Coaches (and some others), the CFP is only the penultimate poll, so it's arguably not the most important.

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« Reply #1275 on: November 01, 2023, 09:12:54 AM »
the CFP poll is worth the $$$

some folks think $$$ is important
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« Reply #1276 on: November 01, 2023, 09:15:53 AM »
Yup.  I suppose one could argue it's better to be #4 in the CFP and #10 in the final polls than the reverse.

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« Reply #1277 on: November 01, 2023, 02:11:59 PM »
Atlanta among Top 20 best cities for renters in the country – WSB-TV Channel 2 - Atlanta (wsbtv.com)

 “evaluated the 96 most-populated U.S. cities with available data across 23 different metrics to uncover the best cities for renters. We considered average rental prices and unit sizes for one- and two-bedroom rentals, the year-over-year percentage change in average rent, the percentage of renters who are rent-burdened, crime rates, the percentage of dog-friendly rentals, amenities and other metrics to identify the best cities to rent in.”

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« Reply #1278 on: November 01, 2023, 02:17:13 PM »
dog-friendly rentals, and other metrics???
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« Reply #1279 on: November 01, 2023, 02:38:33 PM »
I'd probably contrive different metrics, at least in part.

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« Reply #1280 on: November 01, 2023, 02:42:19 PM »
dog friendly might be a negative metric for me

and I'm a dog person that has had a dog living in my house
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« Reply #1281 on: November 01, 2023, 06:33:38 PM »
I'd probably think about square footage per dollar in rent as a primary.  At least it's a real metric not based on judgment.

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« Reply #1282 on: November 01, 2023, 07:11:01 PM »
I'd probably think about square footage per dollar in rent as a primary.  At least it's a real metric not based on judgment.
Yeah, but what about square footage per dollar in purchase price? You clearly have chosen high-rise living in a dense urban area where everything is walkable, and you're paying a SERIOUS premium in square footage per dollar compared to those folks out in Alpharetta. You had different metrics you cared about that make higher cost worth it. 

The problem with any of these rankings is that they have to try to figure out metrics that they think people will value, and the minute they do that, anyone who doesn't care about one of those metrics call bullshit on the entire endeavor. 

But if they were all about square footage per dollar, there'd be some sad-ass cities on this list. I bet downtown Detroit would score highly on that metric lol. 

But you know what it means if square footage per dollar is cheap? It means there's not very high demand to live there. You could almost go the opposite direction and say that the highest cost places are obviously the best, because they're expensive due to demand that it SO insane that people are willing to spend outrageous amounts to live there. 

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« Reply #1283 on: November 02, 2023, 12:49:38 AM »
dog friendly might be a negative metric for me

and I'm a dog person that has had a dog living in my house
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« Reply #1284 on: November 02, 2023, 07:36:46 AM »
Yeah, but what about square footage per dollar in purchase price? You clearly have chosen high-rise living in a dense urban area where everything is walkable, and you're paying a SERIOUS premium in square footage per dollar compared to those folks out in Alpharetta. You had different metrics you cared about that make higher cost worth it.

The problem with any of these rankings is that they have to try to figure out metrics that they think people will value, and the minute they do that, anyone who doesn't care about one of those metrics call bullshit on the entire endeavor.
Sure, the ranking is "best cities for renters", which has to infer criteria of some sort of course.  And this is an excellent example of why such rankings are irrelevant.  But for anyone renting, price per sqft should be A consideration at least.  

There are smaller condos near us that go to 2-3x what we paid (if you presume condo price correlates with rental pricing).  And most places are apartments, some charging a hefty monthly due to location and amenties.  I'd guess rentals down near the airport are pretty cheap.

Anyway, it's another goofy ranking, I think we'd all agree.  

(Alpharetta is pretty nice these days, I'm not sure it would be much cheaper than here.  I briefly considered further out, and Buckhead, but we both were really taken with this area, and the park.)

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« Reply #1285 on: November 02, 2023, 01:45:07 PM »
Average credit score by age in the U.S. (cnbc.com)


  • Gen Z (18 to 26): 680
  • Millennials (27 to 42): 690
  • Gen X (43 to 58): 709
  • Baby boomers (59 to 77): 745
  • Silent generation (78+): 761


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« Reply #1286 on: November 02, 2023, 02:01:34 PM »
Huh.  I always thought I was called Gen Y, slightly younger than Gen X, and different from Millennials.  

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« Reply #1287 on: November 02, 2023, 02:08:27 PM »
I'm square in the middle of Gen X and proud of it.  I feel like Gen X was and still is severly unrepresented in today's media.  

 

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