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Cincydawg

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« Reply #1148 on: September 29, 2023, 10:14:31 AM »
It's amusing, to me, when I lived here before, Alpharetta was a dried up town way out in the sticks of no account whatsoever.  Now it's a pretty reasonable place, though you have to drive just about anywhere you want to go, and traffic is miserable.  My sister lived there for a while.  

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« Reply #1150 on: September 29, 2023, 10:26:47 AM »
They have excellent food. Love the burgers, Italian Beef (We just call it a Beef), Maxwell Street Polish, Chicago dogs, great salads, cheese fries, etc.
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« Reply #1151 on: September 29, 2023, 10:46:35 AM »
https://atlanta.eater.com/2023/9/28/23894110/chicago-hot-dog-chain-portillos-opening-atlanta?utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=eater.socialflow&utm_medium=social&utm_content=eateratlanta&fbclid=IwAR1GCr5TEtxKy281NngHVmolFrF6fQX-E7VK47OIKFE4Rk1lbdy5At-UoCY

Is Portillo's authentic?  I think we dined at one in Orlando.
Yes, I'd call it authentic. There are better local places in Chicago to get Italian Beef IMHO, but their Chicago Dogs pretty much set the standard for me. 

Although not a "Chicago" food specifically, their burgers are REALLY good. 

And the cheese sauce for the cheese fries? Yeah... I think there's some cocaine in there or something. I never go to Portillo's w/o ordering cheese fries. 

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« Reply #1152 on: September 29, 2023, 10:52:19 AM »
Those burgers are in my top 5, for sure, no matter the category.

Dick Portillo knew what he was doing.
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« Reply #1153 on: September 29, 2023, 11:36:02 AM »
Orlando, Florida - Location | Portillo's (portillos.com)
Orlando, Florida - Location | Portillo's (portillos.com)

This was across the street from where we stayed in Orlando last year, I recall dining there once.  We didn't think it was anything special at the time, my wife is a bit finicky about food, I don't recall what I had.  We're going back after baseball (so I can rest a bit) so I'll try it again.  I had one Chicago dog a long time back and liked it.  That was some place in Chicago.

What is the largest US city you have never been in or through?

It's probably Boise for me.  I don't think I was there.  Salt Lake if you don't count the airport.


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« Reply #1154 on: September 29, 2023, 12:34:01 PM »
What is the largest US city you have never been in or through?

It's probably Boise for me.  I don't think I was there.  Salt Lake if you don't count the airport.
Probably Miami for me. Other than an airport layover of course, which I don't count. 

After that it might be either San Antonio or Boise; I'm not sure which is bigger (probably SA?)... But I'll be there in 2 weeks so I'll check San Antonio off the list. There are a few that I don't know the size, such as Jacksonville as well. I haven't honestly spent much time of my life in Florida lol. 

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« Reply #1155 on: September 29, 2023, 12:51:36 PM »
San Antonio is much larger than Boise.  Considering only the urban core within city limits, San Antonio is larger than both Dallas and Austin.  It doesn't have the extensive suburbs and exurbs though.

If you're looking for any recs around the city I could give you a few.

As far as largest cities I've never been to-- I've never been to Detroit, is that considered a large city?  I've been to or through pretty much every other major city in the US.


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« Reply #1156 on: September 29, 2023, 01:03:56 PM »
Population of U.S. metropolitan areas 2022 | Statista

Largest city you've never been to (airport excluded).

I don't think I ever went to Detroit except airport, so I'll bump Boise.

Detroit has more people than Seattle according to this.  The lines around such metro areas can be fairly randomish.  Riverside is counted as separate from LA.

Atlanta is about to pass Philly, might already have happened.  


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« Reply #1157 on: September 29, 2023, 02:06:40 PM »
San Antonio is much larger than Boise.  Considering only the urban core within city limits, San Antonio is larger than both Dallas and Austin.  It doesn't have the extensive suburbs and exurbs though.

If you're looking for any recs around the city I could give you a few.
Will be in the city only one night on the Riverwalk with my in-laws, and then hanging out at their place down southwest of the city. I'm sure they'll be showing us around. 

As for the city vs metropolitan area, though, I always consider the overall metropolitan area population rather than just w/in city limits. Cities across the country developed SO differently over time so I don't really view population within the formal limits as meaningful.

 I.e. a city with 700K in the official city limits but 4M overall will generally have a more rich "scene" as a tourist than a city with 1.1M in official city limits but only 2M overall... 

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« Reply #1158 on: September 29, 2023, 04:13:25 PM »
Even if there's a strong presence of irrational IPA swillers
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« Reply #1159 on: September 29, 2023, 04:56:22 PM »
Philly is the largest I have been to.  Have to go pretty far down the list to get to the next one. 

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« Reply #1160 on: September 29, 2023, 05:55:57 PM »
Will be in the city only one night on the Riverwalk with my in-laws, and then hanging out at their place down southwest of the city. I'm sure they'll be showing us around.

As for the city vs metropolitan area, though, I always consider the overall metropolitan area population rather than just w/in city limits. Cities across the country developed SO differently over time so I don't really view population within the formal limits as meaningful.

I.e. a city with 700K in the official city limits but 4M overall will generally have a more rich "scene" as a tourist than a city with 1.1M in official city limits but only 2M overall...


My only purpose in citing city center sizes was to demonstrate that San Antonio is a major urban area compared to Boise.  Comparing it to Dallas and Austin proper rather than something like, maybe, Modesto, which is a more apt comparison for Boise.

All that said, I'm not sure I agree with your subjective point that I highlighted.  If you're thinking "diverse" rather than "rich" I might be inclined to entertain it, but as stated I think it suggests a bit of a bias against deep cultural specificity.



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« Reply #1161 on: September 29, 2023, 06:05:04 PM »
My only purpose in citing city center sizes was to demonstrate that San Antonio is a major urban area compared to Boise.  Comparing it to Dallas and Austin proper rather than something like, maybe, Modesto, which is a more apt comparison for Boise.

All that said, I'm not sure I agree with your subjective point that I highlighted.
#1: Agreed. I didn't feel like it was worth looking up for the purposes of "largest metro you've never been to" since I'll be there in ~10 days. But I had a feeling it was significantly larger than Boise. 

#2: I'm sure there are exceptions. But I tend to believe that the network effects of a larger population within any metro area leads to a greater range of goods, services, activities/experiences, and cultural enrichment opportunities compared to smaller. I.e. if you've got a metro of 1.5M people and 3% of them are into opera, you may not have enough density of that niche to support a theater performing opera. But if you've got a metro of 9M people and 3% of them are into opera, perhaps you do. And for every metro of 1.5M people, that means that many niche interests won't be viable, whereas for a metro of 9M people, most niche interests will be viable and much fewer will not be.  

 

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