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FearlessF

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« Reply #1106 on: September 23, 2023, 10:33:59 AM »
not to me
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« Reply #1107 on: September 23, 2023, 01:46:37 PM »
Austin felt like a college town, Madison and Knoxville did not. 


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« Reply #1108 on: September 23, 2023, 01:55:07 PM »
it's all in your experience and how limited

Madison did to me, Austin did not, but I've been to Austin many times and during the offseason
Minneapolis certainly doesn't but........

Lincoln doesn't to me much, probably only because I went to college there
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« Reply #1109 on: September 23, 2023, 02:33:09 PM »
I think one key is that Minneapolis has never been considered a college town. Austin and Madison both have. 

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« Reply #1110 on: September 23, 2023, 07:31:20 PM »
I was surprised how big Knoxville was/looked.  I was surprised how small Starkville was.  We drove in from the SE, and there's no town or outskirts, just fields and BOOM - MSU's campus.
I'm sure it's different now.
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« Reply #1111 on: September 24, 2023, 06:29:22 AM »
I think a "college town" should be one where the college is a really significant part of the town.  You can tell it is when you enter it, nearly.  I don't have a specific population limit, but maybe around 100,000 at the max.  Does this really mean anything?  No.  Columbus, OH has areas which are clearly college areas, and areas which are clearly not.

I don't think Atlanta has much of a "college area" outside the various campuses.  There is a small strip near Emory which is college-y.  One could live around here for ages and  have no idea a large university is 2 miles distant.

I spent a few years in Chapel Hill and it struck me as "too small" to be a great college town, largeish university in a small town was not that great.  There were only three student oriented bars for example.  I was happy to leave.  Ha.

The area around U of Cincy is "college-y", a bit, and used to not be very safe either.  They could have a good CFB program IFF they could keep a good coach.

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« Reply #1112 on: September 24, 2023, 08:17:46 AM »
I think we went through the money thing before and agreed it comes in all shapes and sizes and generally isn't comparable.

And the real money thing probably depends mostly, or significantly, on TV revenues, aside from a few cases where Mr. Rich is a fan.  It would be fun to see a list of how much NIL monies are doing here and there.  I wonder if that has cut into direct contributions.
For the schools with the largest athletic budgets, TV revenue plays a part, but it's not the majority.  For example, Texas' annual budget is around $200M these days, and around $50M comes from TV and other conference distributions.  So 25%.  It's still significant, but it's not the driver.

But these donor figures that hit over half a billion are not really part of the athletics budget, they're almost entirely capital project related.  It's still significant and if the intent is to measure donor impact to a program, then it certainly tells part of the story, but I see people getting wrapped up in these numbers and thinking it implies "richest" programs and it's really not the same.  Depending on the recency of major capital improvement programs, different schools will rise or fall on this list, and it's not because their athletic department is becoming any more, or less, "rich."

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« Reply #1113 on: September 24, 2023, 08:23:09 AM »
it's all in your experience and how limited

Madison did to me, Austin did not, but I've been to Austin many times and during the offseason
Minneapolis certainly doesn't but........


Lincoln doesn't to me much, probably only because I went to college there
This is probably part of it.  BF's experience in Austin was centered on the university and the football game and the Board Meeting, so it probably felt a lot more college-y to him.
Your experiences in Austin have been centered on Bonedaddy's, and them ain't college girls. ;)

Personally I don't really consider Austin to be a college town, but it's got a nice college area and if you're a student on campus without a car, you can still have everything you need without getting into the "city" part.

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« Reply #1114 on: September 24, 2023, 08:26:21 AM »
gee, I thought I was helpin those girls buy books
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« Reply #1115 on: September 24, 2023, 09:55:32 AM »
One dollar at a time?
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« Reply #1116 on: September 24, 2023, 09:56:55 AM »
I'm a much better tipper than that  
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« Reply #1117 on: September 24, 2023, 11:17:13 AM »
One dollar at a time?

It's a breastaraunt rather than a titty bar but, you know, samey-same. :)

Sadly Bonedaddy's is no more.  The Pandemic did them in.

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« Reply #1118 on: September 24, 2023, 11:33:07 AM »
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« Reply #1119 on: September 24, 2023, 12:59:15 PM »
How badly do you want me to derail this thread?
Go for it. I’d love to hear your thoughts. 

 

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