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Cincydawg · « **Reply #364 on:** June 10, 2023, 11:41:40 AM »

College football rankings: Top 25 winningest programs of last 10 years (247sports.com)

This one is at least ranked using data. Bama is first at 90% which is hard to believe really, Ohio State is at 88.5%.

If you have one season at 10-3 you're not likely to see 90% over a decade without 9 more with one loss (almost). I figure 130 games in 10 years, so only 12 losses.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #365 on:** June 10, 2023, 11:52:57 AM »

My favorite is Gene and Jude's. See ya soon!!

5 Best Hot Dogs In Chicago, According to Chefs (msn.com)

Cincydawg · « **Reply #366 on:** June 10, 2023, 12:01:43 PM »

How often do y'all fix dogs at home? What do you buy and how do you heat'em?

My wife doesn't like'em so for me it's rare.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #367 on:** June 10, 2023, 12:12:32 PM »

I can't find Vienna beef in stores down here so hot dogs are rare. I was thinking about having a case shipped.

There are a few outposts that serve Chicago food. So far, I've enjoyed those.

I like tavern-style pizza (a Chicago thing) as opposed to the deep dish and I've had some good tavern-style here. It's cracker thin crust but cut into squares rather than triangles.

This place is good.

Chicago Pizza (thechicagopizza.com)

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #368 on:** June 10, 2023, 12:53:57 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 10, 2023, 11:29:53 AM

My sleeping programs have been North Carolina, Washington, and Illinois. I've thought they all could get to 9 wins on average with the right coach and some aid from management. UW has a decent program as it is. UNC has an "OK" program.

Colorado will be interesting of course.

I'm not sure I buy it for Illinois. I suppose the argument is all the Chicago-area talent. But I'm not sure that talent identifies as living in "Illinois" as much as living in "Chicago".

I just don't necessarily buy that the in-state flagship will necessarily have any discernable "in-state" recruiting advantage over M, OSU, or ND if those programs come calling.

Which would of course mean that they may have a ceiling below "giant" level.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #369 on:** June 10, 2023, 12:58:33 PM »

I don't expect Illinois to get there, merely to think that they "could" under the right conditions.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #370 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:05:52 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 10, 2023, 12:01:43 PM

How often do y'all fix dogs at home? What do you buy and how do you heat'em?

My wife doesn't like'em so for me it's rare.

Not often. Occasionally we'll do "junk food night" with the kids and make chili dogs. Every once in a while we do "Chicago dogs" but not really since as Badge points out we're not sourcing Vienna Beef brand.

My wife only buys Hebrew National.

I'm more likely to prefer some good German sausage from our good butcher shop, simmered in onion/sauerkraut/beer, and then served with grainy mustard, sauerkraut, on a nice roll, if I'm looking for a tube of encased meat on a bun.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #371 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:06:25 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on June 10, 2023, 12:53:57 PM

I'm not sure I buy it for Illinois. I suppose the argument is all the Chicago-area talent. But I'm not sure that talent identifies as living in "Illinois" as much as living in "Chicago".

I just don't necessarily buy that the in-state flagship will necessarily have any discernable "in-state" recruiting advantage over M, OSU, or ND if those programs come calling.

Which would of course mean that they may have a ceiling below "giant" level.

Illinois is trying to be Wisconsin. 6 out of 11 of their coaches played (4) or coached (2) in Madison. Plus, more on the support staff.

Wisconsin is trying to get higher than it has been, hence the Luke Fickell hire.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #372 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 10, 2023, 12:58:33 PM

I don't expect Illinois to get there, merely to think that they "could" under the right conditions.

Understood. I didn't think you were predicting they would do it.

I'm just asking if the rationale is due to the Chicago-area talent being in Illinois, so you think that's a recruiting advantage for the Illini?

I'm saying if that is the rationale, I think it misses some unique aspects of the mindset in Illinois, where it's unlikely that any of that talent grows up rooting for the Illini or having any reliable affinity for the team just because they're in the same state.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #373 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:40:14 PM »

I never got the sense that Chicago kids grew up dreaming of playing at Illinois. It's like two different states.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #374 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:53:30 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 10, 2023, 01:40:14 PM

I never got the sense that Chicago kids grew up dreaming of playing at Illinois. It's like two different states.

Yep. And it wouldn't surprise me if the Chicago "power" HS football programs are largely private Catholic schools that can recruit, if there isn't a lot of ND propaganda going on.

That said, I grew up out in Wheaton and the Wheaton/Naperville schools were some of the top public school football programs. I'd think those areas are probably a more reliable pipeline to Champaign. But I still don't know that it would outweigh M or OSU if either of those programs came calling.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #375 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:56:07 PM »

My rationale really is that UI is the "flagship" in a populous state that must surely have some decent HS football around somewhere. Today it seems to be a complete afterthought even for 3 star folks. Find yourself an athletic QB who is slated to play safety at Ohio State and put him behind center and adapt your offense to suit.

Blitz on every down from weird angles.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #376 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:58:53 PM »

UW also takes a lot of Illinois kids. For many, it's even a closer drive. getting to I-57 is a pain if you are in NW Crook, Lake, Kane, McHenry or DuPage Counties.

Already 2 for 2024 with likely 2-3 more. 2 in 2023.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #377 on:** June 10, 2023, 01:59:54 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 10, 2023, 01:56:07 PM

My rationale really is that UI is the "flagship" in a populous state that must surely have some decent HS football around somewhere. Today it seems to be a complete afterthought even for 3 star folks. Find yourself an athletic QB who is slated to play safety at Ohio State and put him behind center and adapt your offense to suit.

Blitz on every down from weird angles.

Bielema is not gonna do that. He's playing BarryBall with a Hayden Fry influence.

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