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utee94

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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #266 on: December 17, 2020, 04:23:36 PM »
Hey look, y'all created a realignment thread!
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« Reply #267 on: December 17, 2020, 04:24:16 PM »
Fair enough. 

So how's this... If the ACC decides to get greedy and dilute themselves by adding Cincinnati, I could actually see UVA/UNC jumping to the B1G in disgust, Clemson and VaTech jumping to the SEC, and the rest of the deck chairs shuffling to the Big 12 who decide they can add more eastern teams from the ACC to match up with WVU and just be a geographic monster. 

And then the ACC becomes G6. 
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« Reply #268 on: December 17, 2020, 08:16:53 PM »
Yeah, some of these posts are showing how some of us haven't gone down the realignment rabbit hole.  It's all about expanding footprint and academics (if that's your thing).  

ISU isn't moving up the totem pole, ever.  
KU has the AAU but lacks the football or borders with a B1G state.
KU is sort of in a purgatory, unless the SEC made a move west and added an OK school with it.  
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Clemson wouldn't jump into the SEC, as good a program as they are.
It would be UNC and a VA team, or if UNC's academics got it into the B1G with UVA, then NC State and VT would join the SEC.  

Hell, in either of these cases, the Big 12 others and the ACC others would join to form a very good conference.  Both cannot go on existing on a long timeline.  
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Brutus Buckeye

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« Reply #269 on: December 17, 2020, 08:32:20 PM »
Rather than hopping on one foot and reciting the alphabet backwards, they will probably just carry on being the Bearcats; part of a select group of upper tier G5 teams; Houston, Memphis, Boise, BYU, and a few others. 
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #270 on: December 17, 2020, 08:40:58 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 17, 2020, 08:32:20 PM
Rather than hopping on one foot and reciting the alphabet backwards, they will probably just carry on being the Bearcats; part of a select group of upper tier G5 teams; Houston, Memphis, Boise, BYU, and a few others.

All of which will continue being second-class citizens.
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« Reply #271 on: December 17, 2020, 08:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 17, 2020, 08:32:20 PM
Rather than hopping on one foot and reciting the alphabet backwards, they will probably just carry on being the Bearcats; part of a select group of upper tier G5 teams; Houston, Memphis, Boise, BYU, and a few others.

Yeah. Who cares what conference these teams are in. The G5 has some good teams this year. The P5...not so much. It's fun when teams can crack through. If there is some arrival barrier keeping them out, it's a hell of a lot less fun.
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« Reply #272 on: December 17, 2020, 09:40:04 PM »
IF?

2020 Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina
2018 UCF
2017 UCF
2016 Western Michigan
2010 TCU
2009 TCU, Cincinnati, and Boise State
2008 Utah and Boise State
2007 Hawai'i
2006 Boise State
2004 Utah and Boise State (and Auburn, actually - left out behind 2 helmets)
1999 Marshall
1998 Tulane
1993 West Virginia (left out in lieu of 2 helmet programs)
1992 Texas A&M (champ of weak-ass SWC)
1987 Syracuse (independent w/ weak-ass schedule)
1985 Bowling Green (undefeated, barely ranked (#20))

It's not an "if," it's a certainty.  
The crumb the NCAA (or whoever decides these things) was to allow the highest-ranked G5 champ into one of the New Year's Six bowl games.  That crumb was the compromise between being totally neglected (see above) and actually being given a seat at the table.
They have no seat at the table.  This year's Cincinnati is just the 20th or so version.  Yawn.
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #273 on: December 17, 2020, 09:44:26 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on December 17, 2020, 12:58:37 PM
I know how much you hate Rutger, but would you really ditch them to pick up Cincinnati? It's not even close.

It is close.
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #274 on: December 17, 2020, 10:04:26 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 17, 2020, 09:40:04 PM
IF?

2020 Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina
2018 UCF
2017 UCF
2016 Western Michigan
2010 TCU
2009 TCU, Cincinnati, and Boise State
2008 Utah and Boise State
2007 Hawai'i
2006 Boise State
2004 Utah and Boise State (and Auburn, actually - left out behind 2 helmets)
1999 Marshall
1998 Tulane
1993 West Virginia (left out in lieu of 2 helmet programs)
1992 Texas A&M (champ of weak-ass SWC)
1987 Syracuse (independent w/ weak-ass schedule)
1985 Bowling Green (undefeated, barely ranked (#20))

It's not an "if," it's a certainty. 
The crumb the NCAA (or whoever decides these things) was to allow the highest-ranked G5 champ into one of the New Year's Six bowl games.  That crumb was the compromise between being totally neglected (see above) and actually being given a seat at the table.
They have no seat at the table.  This year's Cincinnati is just the 20th or so version.  Yawn.
Yes. That's the criticism.
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« Reply #275 on: December 17, 2020, 10:06:41 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on December 17, 2020, 04:03:42 PM

Cincinnati is 143rd in the national rankings. Not a flagship in their own state. Not academically or culturally a fit for the conference, despite being in OH.

KS/ISU go to the B1G to get to 16, and suddenly the B12 is looking for Cincy (and several other teams) to come  keep their conference alive? Well then Cincy won't end up in the P5, they'll end up in the G6 while the SEC/ACC/B1G/PAC will become the P4.

You're whole argument kinda implodes when stating that Cincinnati isn't good enough, but offer Iowa State as a theoretical option. 
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #276 on: December 18, 2020, 07:57:30 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 17, 2020, 03:34:33 PM
    Way back in 1995 while I was a student the Buckeyes beat Iowa by 21 points, 56-35.  Sounds closer than the aforementioned PSU game, right?  Not so fast.  The Buckeyes absolutely obliterated Iowa in that game.  Shortly before halftime the Buckeyes led 56-0 and HC John Cooper started pulling starters.  That year's Heisman winner didn't see the field again after scoring Ohio State's eighth TD of the game.  The starting QB, TE, and a starting WR also didn't play for Ohio State in the second half and it showed.  After building up a 56-0 lead the Buckeyes got outscored 35-0 in the final 31 minutes to win by the much-closer-than-it-was score of 56-35.  
I went to that game. I picked up a friend from his house and headed down to the stadium. We parked behind a frat house off of High Street and walked down. I don't remember exactly what happened, but we got into the stadium just after kick off and were sitting in the bleachers at the south end of the field. By the time we got to our seats, there were a couple of mins into the 1st qtr and it was already 14-0.

We left after half time and headed to a bar. 
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« Reply #277 on: December 18, 2020, 09:07:46 AM »
So you missed 2/3rds of the Game?I always stuck around the whole 5 times I made it too the 'Shoe for a game
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Re: Rank these teams
« Reply #278 on: December 18, 2020, 10:01:06 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 18, 2020, 09:07:46 AM
So you missed 2/3rds of the Game?I always stuck around the whole 5 times I made it too the 'Shoe for a game
I generally do stay until the bitter end, my friend was really getting on my nerves wanting to leave and hit the bar. It was just easier to do that than to listen to him complain for another hour and a half. 
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« Reply #279 on: December 18, 2020, 11:01:00 AM »
Quote from: NorthernOhioBuckeye on December 18, 2020, 10:01:06 AM
I generally do stay until the bitter end, my friend was really getting on my nerves wanting to leave and hit the bar. It was just easier to do that than to listen to him complain for another hour and a half.
That’s why you always go to games and watch games with people who have the same level of commitment and passion that you do.  That’s also why I watch a lot of games alone.  Lol.
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