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Topic: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #224 on: August 10, 2019, 10:59:13 AM »
So the "balanced" NCs since '71 in terms of run/pass are:
1982 Penn State
1983 Miami
1987 Miami
2001 Miami.....pro-style offenses for the canes, running as a change-up for their passing game
2003 LSU....RBs Vincent and Addai, but also a 1000 and 800 yd WRs
2006 Florida
2007 LSU....I remember them more as run-heavy, but backup RBs had very few carries and Hester only had 225, so...
2011 Alabama....the year between Julio Jones and Amari Cooper
2015 Alabama....big RB Henry 2000 yd season, but QB Coker was throwing enough to WR Ridley



Before looking it up, I assumed that 2011 Alabama season where they were balanced instead of run-heavy was McCarron's big season, but no.  2011 was his first year with more meager numbers, but on more attempts per game!  Wow!  So he was much-improved in 2012 with far more TDs and fewer INTs in fewer attempts.  


Anyone have a particular memory of '82 Penn St?  PSU was mostly run-heavy under Paterno, and my guess is they threw more with Rutledge at QB to exploit his talents, despite the many INTs he threw.  Fair to say?
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #225 on: August 10, 2019, 11:19:35 AM »
Run-heavy:
Everyone from 1971-1981 and
85 OU
86 Penn St
88 ND
90 GT
90 CU
92 Bama
94 Neb
95 Neb
97 Neb
97 UM
98 Tenn
02 OSU
05 Texas
08 Florida
09 Bama
10 Aub
12 Bama
14 OSU
17 Bama
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Balanced:
82 Penn St
83 Miami
87 Miami
91 Washington
94 Penn St
01 Miami
03 LSU
06 Florida
07 LSU
11 Bama
15 Bama
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Pass-Heavy:
84 BYU
89 Miami
91 Miami
93 FSU
96 Florida
99 FSU
00 OU
04 USC
13 FSU
16 Clemson
18 Clemson
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #226 on: August 10, 2019, 11:23:33 AM »
so, 71 Nebraska was in between run heavy and balanced
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #227 on: August 10, 2019, 12:04:27 PM »
'71 Nebraska passed 29%, so they're solidly in run-heavy, by 10 percentage points.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #228 on: August 11, 2019, 04:44:44 PM »
Looking at Texas Tech under Leach (pass-happiest situation I thought of), in their best year (2008), they threw it 68% of the time - wayyyyy more than any championship-caliber program season.  
But we all know the Red Raiders routinely go 8-5 or 7-6 or 5-7, something like that.  It's safe to say great teams run more than they pass, and that the RELATIVE balance I've outlined is probably the ideal pass/run ratio for ultra-success.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #229 on: August 11, 2019, 04:48:56 PM »
And I'd really love some memories about the '82 season, if anyone's willing to share.  I was a baby and know almost nothing about it.  

Was Georgia looked at as THE team?  Was Nebraska like WTF?  What was it like to have SMU matter?  Did Penn St kind of come out of nowhere?  Was Pitt a favorite?  I know nothing.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #230 on: August 11, 2019, 09:53:11 PM »
The pre season poll had a top 5 of 1. Pittsburgh, 2. Washington, 3. Nebraska, 4. Alabama, and 5. North Carolina. Penn State was #8.

On September 11, #5 North Carolina lost at #1 Pittsburgh by a score of 7-6; the Tar Heels would never return to the top 5 as they went 8-4. Meanwhile, Washington, by virtue of its 55-0 win over UTEP, moved ahead of Pitt in the next poll. Florida replaced North Carolina in the top 5 that was 1. Washington, 2. Pittsburgh, 3. Nebraska, 4. Alabama, and 5. Florida.

After games of September 18, Pittsburgh was again leapfrogged by a team that dominated a weak opponent, as Nebraska beat New Mexico 68-0 and moved ahead of Pitt to #2. The rest of the top 5 was unchanged.

On September 25, #2 Nebraska was defeated at #8 Penn State by a score of 27-24 in a game that ultimately decided the national title. The outcome of the game was controversial as Penn State tight end Mike McCloskey would later admit catching a key pass out of bounds that kept the winning drive alive. Penn State replaced Nebraska in the new top 5 that was 1. Washington, 2. Pittsburgh, 3. Penn State, 4. Alabama, and 5. Florida.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #231 on: August 11, 2019, 10:13:40 PM »
OAM, are you judging offensive balance as a function of yards or attempts?

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #232 on: August 11, 2019, 10:18:51 PM »
Attempts, which is basically play-calling (minus scrambles).  


Yardage would be basing it off outcomes, not process.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #233 on: August 15, 2019, 11:59:27 PM »
I have to share this:


1969 Texas' kicker's name was Happy Feller.  
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #234 on: August 16, 2019, 06:04:21 AM »

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #235 on: August 16, 2019, 12:50:53 PM »
I have to share this:


1969 Texas' kicker's name was Happy Feller. 
that isn't what they called him when he missed

how many did he miss?
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #236 on: August 16, 2019, 01:02:05 PM »
that isn't what they called him when he missed

how many did he miss?

Not many.  He's actually the kicker that scored the go-ahead extra point to seal #1 Texas' win 15-14 against #2 Arkansas in the 1969 "Game of the Century"-- the game where President Nixon awarded Texas the national championship after the game.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #237 on: August 16, 2019, 01:57:54 PM »
Attempts, which is basically play-calling (minus scrambles). 


Yardage would be basing it off outcomes, not process.
did you have any adjustment for situations?

none of bama's teams under saban have been what i'd consider run heavy, except in the sense that once we got up big (which is quite often) we ran the clock out. but that's not truly indicative of bama's playstyle. during situations when the game is one the line, we're very much balanced.

 

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