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Topic: Purdue (1-2, 3-3) at #7 Wisconsin (3-0, 6-0) Post Game

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2017, 08:54:36 AM »
Purdue just isn't there yet.

The patched together OL is what we hoped they weren't.  The staff did the best they could to put one together, credit there, but they just can't compete with a defense like this yet.

Brohm will have to be very creative, again.  

The depth of the Purdue defense will show in the 2nd half.  As mentioned, the run D has been good.  No depth though, Wisconsin is a bad match up here.

Sindelar is the better QB for this game.  He can make the throws Blough can't.  Purdue will need to run shotgun and stretch the field, passing to set up the run.  Sindelar has the better arm and decision making for the fast paced game this will have to be.

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2017, 09:07:06 AM »
We've had a loss by less than 3 scores?   I don't remember one, I thought everyone had been by at least 17, with most of the losses by like 40, including at least 1 shut out (I was at that one in '09, oy!).  Oh wait, just hit me, did Hazell have a loss up there where we literally didn't try to win and we kept running the ball even though it was admitting defeat?

Either way, I love, LOVE what Brohm is doing and have complete 100% faith he is taking us to big things once he gets enough time to get his players to create depth.  With that huge Minn win, I think we win 7 if not 8 (absolutely mindbogglingly insane to be saying that with a straight face considering where we were last year), but let me break the news to everyone.....it ain't happening this weekend.  

Wisc has them big corn fed boys on the OL like they always do, and will pummel us into submission just like Mich did, except for I actually fear more of an asskicking since unlike Mich, Wisc is legit now and not a year away.  If this is somehow still a 1 score game at the half, it will quickly change by the late 3rd quarter unless Wisc completely looks ahead along with having a -4 TO margin.

Wisc will win.  I'll go with 45-17.
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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2017, 11:18:08 AM »
I just have to post this. I just love the look of the all-white uniforms and there is no place else to put this. I like the play call too though.

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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2017, 12:14:34 PM »
We've had a loss by less than 3 scores?   I don't remember one, I thought everyone had been by at least 17, with most of the losses by like 40, including at least 1 shut out (I was at that one in '09, oy!).  Oh wait, just hit me, did Hazell have a loss up there where we literally didn't try to win and we kept running the ball even though it was admitting defeat?

Yep. 2015. The game that resulted in me emailing Morgan Burke demanding that John Shoop (if not Hazell as well) be shown the door. 

That game it was clear that the coaching staff had no intention of winning. It was run, run, run, and hope that the game is as short as possible with the clock continuing to run that it will be over quickly. 

With Morgan no longer there, we can only hope that PU will open the wallet and give him some of that TV money to keep him there. Tiller proved it could be a destination. Maybe Brohm could do the same.
Joe Tiller was a.) a different cat than almost any football coach and b.) a decade older than Brohm when Purdue hired him.  I think age, more than anything, kept him off most radars.  I think we broke this down when discussing the Riley hire, about how rare it was for a P5 program to hire a head coach of his age.  Granted Tiller wasn't as old as Riley was either.
I think Brohm is perhaps a bit of a different cat than most football coaches. 

Among Purdue fans, there is concern that he will eventually leave us to go right back to Louisville, being his alma mater and his brother's, whenever Petrino decides to walk away. That said, given some of the things that have gone on with Louisville athletics recently, perhaps he won't. He seems like a man of character, and Louisville seems VERY slimy of late.

If he has dreams of coaching at the highest levels (whether CFB or NFL), we simply cannot give him enough money to stay. Because that's something Purdue can never really offer. Realistically a shot at the college football playoff is unlikely to occur for a team like Purdue more than once every 30 years or so, if that. 

But if he's looking for a "destination" job, Purdue ain't half bad. We won't have the pressure of some of the helmet schools. Knocking out 8-9 wins a year with the occasional upside of going to the B1G CCG every 3-4 years is enough for us and the rare downside of 6 wins, and I think he could put that together once he gets his system fully in place. He could coach the rest of his career at Purdue with results like that without worrying about his job security.

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2017, 01:55:50 PM »
is this UW's hardest game left other than UM? is it UWs most difficult regular season test to date?

I think UW is good, but man, this schedule is atrocious. It's not entirely their fault, BYU, Nebraska, Northwestern are typically better opponents in recent years, but all of them have been below par this season.

I don't think a Purdue win is entirely out of the question, Hornibrook can toss a couple of picks ala the northwestern game, maybe Purdue get's it's pass game going early to cause some problems.

but if UW pounds the ball for 4 quarters it's hard to envision Purdue not wearing down eventually.

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2017, 02:04:43 PM »
Iowa might be the toughest game left. It's always a bloodbath and they have shown they can compete with the best in the conference when they played MSU and PSU tough. Michigan will be tough. Maryland is no slouch if they can get the QB going. Road games remaining are Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota. Illinois should be a win. Indiana is tricky and for Minnesota it's their Superbowl.

The only "should win" I see on the schedule is the game at Illinois. Anyone else could trip them up. They also cannot afford any more injuries.
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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2017, 02:14:37 PM »
But if he's looking for a "destination" job, Purdue ain't half bad. We won't have the pressure of some of the helmet schools. Knocking out 8-9 wins a year with the occasional upside of going to the B1G CCG every 3-4 years is enough for us and the rare downside of 6 wins, and I think he could put that together once he gets his system fully in place. He could coach the rest of his career at Purdue with results like that without worrying about his job security.
I think a lot of us non-helmet school fans like to get hopeful this way, but the truth is that it pretty much never works out like that.  And I'm not saying MSU is above that either.  I think we got lucky that Dantonio won in a way that wasn't really all that flashy, and that he too was a little older when he got the job, that he was less desirable.

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2017, 03:16:02 PM »
Nobody expected this preseason but right now I see this as the game of the year in the B1G-W.  Standings:
  • 2-0 Wisconsin
  • 2-1 Nebraska (lost to UW)
  • 1-1 Purdue (lost to East team)
  • 1-2 Iowa (lost to two East teams)
  • 0-2 Minnesota (lost to PU and an East team)
  • 0-2 Illinois (lost to UNL, Iowa)
  • 0-2 Northwestern (lost to UW and an East team)

Wisconsin already beat Nebraska and other than these two teams, everybody else in the B1G-W already has at least two losses.  Iowa is at least arguably still in it because both losses were to B1G-E teams but they still have to host Ohio State and travel to Madison so I just don't see it.  

If Wisconsin wins this they'll effectively have a two-game cushion over everybody else.  

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2017, 03:46:01 PM »
Iowa might be the toughest game left. It's always a bloodbath and they have shown they can compete with the best in the conference when they played MSU and PSU tough. Michigan will be tough. Maryland is no slouch if they can get the QB going. Road games remaining are Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota. Illinois should be a win. Indiana is tricky and for Minnesota it's their Superbowl.

The only "should win" I see on the schedule is the game at Illinois. Anyone else could trip them up. They also cannot afford any more injuries.
You are sandbagging.  I would agree with not calling those games "locks" but Wisconsin clearly should win all of:
  • v Maryland:  It is at home and the Terps got destroyed by Ohio State
  • @ Illinois:  Obvioulsy
  • @ Indiana:  It is on the road, but the Hoosiers got destroyed by both Ohio State and Penn State.  
  • v Iowa:  I'd agree if this game was in Iowa City but it isn't.  This game is in Madison and Wisconsin should win.  
  • @ Minnesota:  Their "Superbowl" or not, Minnesota just isn't a good team right now.  Maybe by late November, but nothing so far suggests that the Gophers should even be able to compete in this game.  

Per the worldwide leader, Wisconsin's OOC schedule ranks 98th and their overall SoS is projected at 61st.  A lot of that isn't Wisconsin's fault.  At BYU is usually at least a decent game but the Cougars are a mess and Wisconsin's only tricky cross-over is Michigan.  Even there, the Badgers get the Wolverines at home.  

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2017, 05:28:54 PM »
I think a lot of us non-helmet school fans like to get hopeful this way, but the truth is that it pretty much never works out like that.  And I'm not saying MSU is above that either.  I think we got lucky that Dantonio won in a way that wasn't really all that flashy, and that he too was a little older when he got the job, that he was less desirable.
Of course. Much like Tiller at Purdue. He was clearly ready for the "final" job of his career. I think Dantonio may not have deliberately come to MSU for his final job, but by the time his stock was highest, he probably wasn't up for a change to a "bigger" job.
My point is that if Brohm wants bigger, nothing ($$) we can offer him will keep him at Purdue. But if he doesn't, it's not like we're some G5 backwater. 

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2017, 10:15:07 PM »
With Morgan no longer there, we can only hope that PU will open the wallet and give him some of that TV money to keep him there. Tiller proved it could be a destination. Maybe Brohm could do the same.
Money is no issue any longer.  I don't have time to type the dissertation right now but like 1,000 good things have happened in and outside of the athletic dept since the new AD Mike Bobinski took over about a year ago.  Purdue is in SUCH a better place than we were in the last decade under Burke.  If we all were hanging out I could tlk about this for 3 hours.  The positive vibe surrounding everything around major Purdue athletics right now is something I haven't seen when I was school and football was legit and king of campus (99 to 03, so Drew and Orton.)  It's not just Bobinski, our Pres Mitch Daniels is all in now and the biggest key to this all being a change in attitude is we have a new Chairman of the Board of Directors, Mike Berghoff, who has decided we are spending and we aren't accepting defeat.  Can't lie guys, I am giddy.

You ain't joking about it being a hell of a fortunate thing we ain't part of the row boat crew.  Fleck should be able to recruit, but man that shtick would wear out quickly.

Brohm was the guy Bobinski targeted the whole time, we got him, and he will fight like hell to keep from losing him.  I want Petrino to bail now with all of the Lou controversy going on, will take them off the table as a possibility for a while.
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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2017, 09:06:37 AM »
"If we all were hanging out I could tlk about this for 3 hours."


I'm pretty sure we've done that bro.  :)
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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2017, 10:55:28 AM »
Purdue is going to do a lot of quick passes and move the pocket against Wisky I think.  In order for Purdue to have a chance to win this game they will need to win the turnover battle.  That can be the equalizer.

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Re: Purdue (3-2, 1-1) at #7 Wisconsin (5-0, 2-0) Game Week
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2017, 11:44:15 AM »
Wisky?
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