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847badgerfan

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #378 on: December 08, 2019, 10:00:11 AM »
Clemson is well-rested after playing against the AAC all season. Now they have one (or two) big games to get up for, while the other 3 teams have gone through a grind.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #379 on: December 08, 2019, 10:00:20 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on December 07, 2019, 11:25:55 AM
Is it merely a sample size of one or is it contrary evidence that some people choose to disregard because it contradicts their pet theory?
Wouldn't you be citing it as evidence of the "betterness" of defense if Utah had won?
A sample size of 1 is a sample size of 1.  If it meshes with the larger preponderance of evidence, it's an outcome that was most likely.  When it doesn't mesh with the evidence, it was unlikely.  It happened, and it will continue to happen some of the time, but until there's a tipping point, it's still an unlikely outcome.
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Honestly, it's like a good FG kicker.  You don't yell and scream at a 90% FG kicker when he misses.  He's going to miss sometimes - it's a certainty - just as sometimes the superior defensive team is going to lose sometimes.  So you take it in stride and go on about your business, knowing each miss or loss is unlikely yet certain.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #380 on: December 08, 2019, 10:02:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 08, 2019, 09:59:19 AM
As many here have noted before, the teams with serious NC aspirations number roughly 15 preseason, and for 11 of them (about to be 14) this year will be something of a disappointment.  Georgia is an extant example, thought to have had an NFL offensive line (maybe for the Bengals), an experienced QB, and great defense and ST.  Their season was marred by a home loss to USCe and then a blow out to LSU last night.  "Marred" is putting it nicely.  So, maybe they play UVA in the OB, yay.  Win or lose, it doesn't change much, though a loss would make the year almost calamitous.  In "the old days", they would have finished 11-1, perhaps 12-1 with a major bowl win and a top 5 rankings, which is something of a solace, though it would have really put a bad taste about the USCe loss.  They seem locked in the bride's maid category.

You just described the Wisconsin Badgers.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #381 on: December 08, 2019, 10:03:40 AM »
Yeah, in the old systems, 19 Clemson could turn out like 04 Auburn, 03 USC, 94 Penn St, or any number of pre-82 Penn States....lump 66 Bama in, too.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #382 on: December 08, 2019, 10:04:24 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 08, 2019, 10:02:24 AM
You just described the Wisconsin Badgers.
Or the 'other' 13 teams of the Big Ten....
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #383 on: December 08, 2019, 10:12:21 AM »
I don't think half of the "other" 13 are bridesmaids. They are happy to get to a bowl. The Big Ten right now is 1 great team, 5 pretty good ones, 5 meh and 3 bad.

It's those 5 pretty good ones who are the bridesmaids. The 5 others were invited to the wedding to provide more gifts, and the other 3 were cut from the list (good for them).
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #384 on: December 08, 2019, 11:06:50 AM »
I just meant OSU's dominance has been total.
Since 2005, OSU has won or shared the B10 title 10 times.
In that same time frame, Alabama has only won the SEC 6 times.
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People joke about how the SEC is Alabama and the 13 dwarfs.....uhhh, wrong conference.  
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« Reply #385 on: December 08, 2019, 11:19:23 AM »
OSU has played in the CCG 5 times, and is 4-1. Bride.

UW has played in the CCG 6 times, and is 2-6. Bridesmaid.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #386 on: December 08, 2019, 12:12:29 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 08, 2019, 11:19:23 AM
OSU has played in the CCG 5 times, and is 4-1. Bride.

UW has played in the CCG 6 times, and is 2-6. Bridesmaid.
Another way UW and UGA are similar - the Bulldogs are the only SEC team with a losing record in the SEC CG with more than 5 appearances.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #387 on: December 08, 2019, 12:20:01 PM »
OSU is in an historical stretch right now. Tressel got it started and Urban took it to another level. Looks like Day will continue this, or even improve it, based on recruiting and such.

We're looking at a 20 year window with them, and it's an amazing look.

I don't know if the conference can catch up right now. OSU might have to fall down a peg to make it more competitive. They have the best players and the best coaches.

Look at that defense this year, compared to last. The difference is stark.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #388 on: December 08, 2019, 12:25:15 PM »
LSU is #1, OSU 2
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #389 on: December 08, 2019, 12:29:24 PM »
I guess we'll see if LSU can beat Jalen Hurts. You know the latter will be pumped to play that game. I just don't think OU has the defense to stop Joe Burreaux.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #390 on: December 08, 2019, 12:33:51 PM »


OSU hasn't fared very well against Clemson over the years. (putting it mildly)
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #391 on: December 08, 2019, 12:35:20 PM »
OSU's defense is as good as its been since 2002. Probably better.
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