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FearlessF

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #336 on: December 05, 2019, 10:35:48 AM »
if the airport in Phoenix can't handle the traffic, folks could fly into Vegas and make the 4 1/2 hour drive
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #337 on: December 05, 2019, 10:36:59 AM »
I'm sure the airport can handle traffic, it's a matter of nonstop flights that perhaps is the issue.  I hate having connections on a domestic flight.

Tempe has 108 destinations reachable nonstop, ATL has 238.

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #338 on: December 05, 2019, 10:38:24 AM »
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Quote from: FearlessF on December 05, 2019, 10:02:59 AM
Most will think that a coach like Pelini will spite the officials enough to have some calls go against his team that otherwise would not
Could be.

I've certainly seen an example of one official that intentionally did things to provoke a specific coach, literally chasing the coach down the sideline jawing in his ear, then initiate contact (bumping him), and then have the audacity to flag the coach for Unsportsmanlike when it was the official causing all of the drama and contact. I can speculate as to some of the reasons why this particular official decided to attack this specific coach, but I don't know for certain, and it doesn't really matter. 

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #339 on: December 05, 2019, 10:39:29 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2019, 10:24:14 AM
UGA-Clemson in ATL would sell out rather dramatically I suspect if it happened (duh).  OSU-LSU in Tempe is not really a geographic advantage for OSU versus ATL.  OSU might prefer ATL even playing Clemson or even UGA.  Tempe is harder to get to for most teams than Atlanta.  They have a rather large airport here.

I am strangely optimistic about the Dawgs' chances.  I rather suspect it is in part because my logical brain does not expect a W, so the pressure is off so to speak.




We can only wish that game was still played in Tempe, which is easy to get to from PHX. Glendale.. yuck.

Could always play one of the games in Soldier Field. There's a big airport here too. Two, actually.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #340 on: December 05, 2019, 10:48:54 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 05, 2019, 10:35:48 AM
if the airport in Phoenix can't handle the traffic, folks could fly into Vegas and make the 4 1/2 hour drive
Sky Harbor in Phoenix (PHX) is humongous and shouldn't have any problem with the traffic but Vegas is a nice stopover anyway.  

That is what my brother and I did for the BCSNCG back in 2003 (2002 season).  We flew to Vegas and spent a night there then drove to Tempe for the game and spent a night there, then drove back to Vegas and stayed a couple days before our flight home.  

Warning:  If you do this, gas up early and often.  There isn't much between Vegas and Tempe.  

It should be a lot easier now than it was 17 years ago.  Back then they hadn't built the Mike O'Callaghan-Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge
Mike O'Callaghan-Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge so the typical route from Vegas to Tempe was to take US 93 which crossed the Colorado River Valley by running along the top of the Hoover Dam.  Our problem was that this was not too long after 9/11 and we were warned by some people who went that way ahead of us that security at the Dam was S-L-O-W.  We drove South on US 95, crossed the Colorado River at Laughlin, NV/AZ and got back to the main route at Kingman, AZ.  That saved us from potential delays at the Dam but added something like a half hour to the trip.  Also we spent some time in Northern Arizona talking to friendly and efficient Public Servant.  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #341 on: December 05, 2019, 10:50:09 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 05, 2019, 10:39:29 AM
We can only wish that game was still played in Tempe, which is easy to get to from PHX. Glendale.. yuck.

Could always play one of the games in Soldier Field. There's a big airport here too. Two, actually.
That was my fault, I'm the one who said Tempe.  

I should know better, I've been to that game in both locations.  

Tempe was WAY better.  I think I've erased the memories of my trip to Glendale in 2007 (2006 season).  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #342 on: December 05, 2019, 10:57:02 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 05, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
That was my fault, I'm the one who said Tempe. 

I should know better, I've been to that game in both locations. 

Tempe was WAY better.  I think I've erased the memories of my trip to Glendale in 2007 (2006 season). 
The sterileness of the major bowls is very disappointing.  The Fiesta, Cotton and Orange Bowls were so much better in their old locations.

Can't wait for the Rose Bowl to be played here eventually:

Image result for new la stadium
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #343 on: December 05, 2019, 11:03:16 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2019, 10:36:59 AM
I'm sure the airport can handle traffic, it's a matter of nonstop flights that perhaps is the issue.  I hate having connections on a domestic flight.

Tempe has 108 destinations reachable nonstop, ATL has 238.


the SUX airport, closest to me has 3 or 4 non stop destinations - maybe just 2
I usually fly out of Omaha, cheaper.  It has a few more non stops, but not many
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #344 on: December 05, 2019, 11:43:31 AM »
I'd say 99% of Ohio State fans interested in going can get to ATL on a direct flight.  That figure may be 50% for Phoenix.

Anyway, the old stadia often had some panache, but some are broken down relics (Bobby Dodd is an example).

The new ones seem high on hype and low on, well, something.  The cheap hotdogs in MB stadium is a plus.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #345 on: December 05, 2019, 01:35:02 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2019, 10:24:14 AM
UGA-Clemson in ATL would sell out rather dramatically I suspect if it happened (duh).  OSU-LSU in Tempe is not really a geographic advantage for OSU versus ATL.  OSU might prefer ATL even playing Clemson or even UGA.  Tempe is harder to get to for most teams than Atlanta.  They have a rather large airport here.

I am strangely optimistic about the Dawgs' chances.  I rather suspect it is in part because my logical brain does not expect a W, so the pressure is off so to speak.




Sky Harbor
  
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-best-and-worst-u-s-airports-of-2019-11573658675

I would rather fly into Phoenix any time over Atlanta. 

If you have ever been to the Fiesta Bowl when Ohio State is playing, you would assume that it is a home game. 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #346 on: December 05, 2019, 01:41:32 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2019, 11:43:31 AM
I'd say 99% of Ohio State fans interested in going can get to ATL on a direct flight.  That figure may be 50% for Phoenix.

Anyway, the old stadia often had some panache, but some are broken down relics (Bobby Dodd is an example).

The new ones seem high on hype and low on, well, something.  The cheap hotdogs in MB stadium is a plus.

Personally the hour drive across the valley to Allstate Stadium.

My wife has never been to a college football game except there, I keep telling her, I need to get her to Columbus to show her what it is really like at a college football game. 

The stadium is sterile and you cannot hear the bands unless you are next to them. It is just not the same
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #347 on: December 05, 2019, 03:52:24 PM »
A person might well prefer one airport over another, no doubt, while also preferring a nonstop flight over a lay over.  I do anyway.  And of course, from Ohio it is not a terrible drive to get to Atlanta.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #348 on: December 05, 2019, 04:06:31 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2019, 03:52:24 PM
A person might well prefer one airport over another, no doubt, while also preferring a nonstop flight over a lay over.  I do anyway.  And of course, from Ohio it is not a terrible drive to get to Atlanta.
You are right and if I were going I'd make the drive.  Per Mr. Google, Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta is a little over a 10 hour drive from my garage but I have made that in a LOT less than that.  Their calculation only averages 66.15 MPH (678 mi in 10:15) Averaging 70 or 75 gets that down to about 9:40 or 9:02 respectively.  I've done it in nine hours flat all stops included but that is REALLY hauling A*& and not having anybody in the car who needs to pee any more often than the car needs gas.  

MB Stadium is even closer for Ohio State fans from the Cincy area (6:53 per Google, probably ~6 if you really haul).  

That said, they wouldn't put a hypothetical #1 Ohio State in the Peach Bowl against a hypothetical #4 UGA, Clemson, or LSU because those three campuses are 90 minutes, 2:28, 7:38 from Atlanta respectively.  

Ok, now that I typed that, on second thought if LSU loses the SECCG, drops to #4 and gets matched up with #1 Ohio State they MIGHT put that game in Atlanta.  LSU's campus is closer but only by about 1:11 AND since LSU is considerably west of Atlanta they are also closer to Glendale.  I still don't *THINK* they would do that for two reasons:
  • Atlanta is IN the SEC footprint and MB Stadium hosts the SECCG which LSU would have JUST played in.  That seems like an advantage for #4 over #1 and that isn't supposed to happen.  
  • In that case the other game would likely be UGA/Clemson and I think they would want that one in Atlanta.  

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #349 on: December 05, 2019, 04:27:47 PM »
Having recently played there is probably a modest advantage, I agree (even if you lost).  I'm just pondering why it helps OSU to be moved to Arizona when ATL is relatively close, even if it's much closer for probable opponents.

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