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Cincydawg

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Preseason Magazines
« on: June 29, 2019, 09:38:01 AM »
1.  Do you buy any?
2.  Do you learn useful stuff if you do?
3.  Do you stand in Kroger and scan whatever is written about your team?
4.  Do you think they are useful?


https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Phil-Steele-magazine-2019-predictions-all-conference-power-rankings-133240802/



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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2019, 09:43:48 AM »
They're just college football porn.  You can spend a week posting here and learn more than the mags 'teach' you.  Plus, they come out earlier and earlier, and thus, become more and more outdated once the season begins.

I looked for them at the airport Wednesday, but didn't see any out yet.  They're great for plane rides - you become an expert on New Mexico State's defensive backfield depth.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2019, 09:52:53 AM »
"Athlon, Street & Smith and Lindy’s remain staples alongside Steele’s publication, while many others have dropped off.
Street and Smith’s is the godfather of the genre, but it’s since merged with Sporting News. Athlon is another newsstand mainstay, and Lindy’s is always a favorite in the Southeast near its Birmingham home.
Yet nobody’s seemed to capture the college football landscape like Steele. DelPopolo’s best advice to Steele in 1995 was to make it to newsstands first. People craved college football during the summer and bought what they saw. Steele’s never really subscribed to that theory. His magazine releases in late June, well after the majority of other publications. Athlon hit newsstands in late-May, for example.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2019, 10:12:54 AM »
Steele. Period. Guy spends too much time on it to not read what he has to say.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2019, 10:21:48 AM »
When I was religiously maintaining my NCAA football rosters from year to year (since the game is no longer released), Athlon was the best, because it has the full 2-deep with jersey numbers.  
Sporting news is probably the prettiest and most colorful.
Steele tries to be predictive and has all the quirky (Nebraska is 9-1 the last 10 October night games west of the Mississippi River) stats, which can be fun (and silly).
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2019, 10:28:42 AM »
I will at times drift away from the wife in Kroger (she spends too much time checking dates in my view) and stand and peruse one, whatever is on top.  I don't think I've ever read anything I didn't know or learn here first.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2019, 10:00:35 PM »
I read everyone of them before the internet

up until the late 90s
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2019, 10:06:51 PM »
I'll never forget the all-time WTF prediction from Athlon's 1995 preview mag......TCU's Max Knake as the 1st team All-American QB.  Not Manning.  Not Wuerffel.  Not Frazier.  


Knake went on to have more INTs than TDs and TCU went 6-5.  Utter nonsense.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2019, 11:34:39 PM »
Best way to pass time at an airport.  I may pick one up here or there.  Used to mine them to find mistakes.   Not that hard.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2019, 09:40:29 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on June 30, 2019, 11:34:39 PM
Best way to pass time at an airport.  I may pick one up here or there.  Used to mine them to find mistakes.  Not that hard.
Small factual mistakes or typos?
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2019, 09:45:07 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 30, 2019, 10:06:51 PM
I'll never forget the all-time WTF prediction from Athlon's 1995 preview mag......TCU's Max Knake as the 1st team All-American QB.  Not Manning.  Not Wuerffel.  Not Frazier. 


Knake went on to have more INTs than TDs and TCU went 6-5.  Utter nonsense.
I enjoy this one for some reason because it's this perfect cocktail of trying to strike out on one's own and second-guessing the hype. If I stare hard enough at the stats, I can see where a person could predict that (it's a fun exercise). 

And of course, the point of these things isn't actually to be right. It's because people like imagining infinite possibilities, or railing against conventional wisdom. 

Looking back, I'm more impressed Frazier took the vast majority of first-team spots from Wuerffel after the season. It shows how much the sport and our understanding of it has changed. 
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2019, 09:47:14 AM »
was this after the reg season or after the bowl season?
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2019, 09:47:32 AM »
Seems to be a mix of opinions here, which is perhaps expected.  I see a lot of stuff on line, most of it redundant or speculative or silly.  I don't think I'm going to learn any more about my team before the first game except PERHAPS a few snippets from practice that so-and-so looks really good.

I'm certainly not nearly as into stats and trends and whatever else as some of the mags are.  I do know that Memphis is 7-4 in night games played after close wins over the past 5 seasons.
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Re: Preseason Magazines
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2019, 10:12:32 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 29, 2019, 09:38:01 AM
1.  Do you buy any? I always have, but I haven't bought one this year
2.  Do you learn useful stuff if you do? I used to, not so much anymore
3.  Do you stand in Kroger and scan whatever is written about your team? Yup
4.  Do you think they are useful? Nah, as already stated, you don't really learn anything.  Also college football used to go into a cave on January 2, and not reemerge until Labor Day.  The two little glimpses into the world of college football were the magazines in late May/early June, and the release of NCAA Football in late July.  Now there is college football stuff year round, so there's no excitement over seeing it.  To stick with the college football porn comparison, why buy Playboy when you can get more, of whatever you want, whenever you want, for free, online?  I can watch an entire MSU game, of my choice, whenever I want to.  So I'm not going to get excited over a singular picture of an MSU player, preselected for me.


https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Phil-Steele-magazine-2019-predictions-all-conference-power-rankings-133240802/




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