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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #112 on: November 06, 2017, 10:37:10 AM »
Looking forward to the Notre Dame @Miami game this weekend. Guessing Clemson and Miami will play in the ACC championship and Georgia and Alabama in the SEC's.  Hoping to see some new faces in the playoffs.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #113 on: November 06, 2017, 10:59:00 AM »
Auburn has a say in all of this and is favored this weekend over UGA.
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« Reply #114 on: November 06, 2017, 11:13:51 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 06, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
Auburn has a say in all of this and is favored this weekend over UGA.
Auburn winning out would make things interesting.  It would obviously knock Georgia out as Auburn would have to beat them twice to win out but could leave an 11-1 non-Champion Bama in the mix.  
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #115 on: November 06, 2017, 11:20:48 AM »
I wonder what the headlines on the ESecPN and CBSec sites would be if the SEC had a weekend like the Big Ten did this past weekend.

SEC Tumbles?

SEC playoff hopes in big trouble?

I bet not...
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #116 on: November 06, 2017, 11:44:20 AM »
And because we've embraced a system that rewards the opposite, this is "terrible" for the Big Ten, instead of an exciting four week race to the Rose Bowl.

I understand what you're saying, but I'd still rather see a 12-0 Wisconsin vs a 1 loss OSU, PSU, MSU or whoever, even if we weren't in the BCS/playoffs era.

wouldn't you rather see 2 heavyweights slug it out vs a pair of "good" but not "great teams"?

The Iowa/MSU BIG 10 game was phenomenal, but part of what made that game BIG was the entire nation was watching knowing it was a play-in/elimination game whatever you want to call it.

I'll still watch it as a BIG 10 fan, but I want my conference champion to distinguish itself, I don't want to see a potential 4 way tie in the EAST with 4 7-2 teams vs a 1 or 2 loss wisconsion. now that doesn't mean other years I wouldn't mind seeing a UM, PSU, OSU, MSU all 7-2 if they were all truly great. but I think all 4 of those schools are just good this year, nothing spectacular.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #117 on: November 06, 2017, 01:27:29 PM »
If LSU had beaten Bama and USCe beat UGA and A&M beat Auburn, I'm pretty sure it would be obvious that the SEC's playoff shot took a hit.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #118 on: November 06, 2017, 02:19:44 PM »
I'm saying it right now, there will be a 2 loss team in the playoff this year. It won't be Ohio State FYI, you can lose by 30 to Iowa and expect to get in. You can't lose to anyone by 30 for that matter and get in.

I think both Bama/UGA get in as well. so we'll have undefeated Bama/UGA, 1 loss BAMA/UGA, and 1 or 2 teams with 2 losses.

Big 12 gonna screw itself with a 2 loss champ, ND gonna lose to somebody, PAC 12 champ is gonna have 2 losses (please don't let Washington in again by playing NO ONE but yet only having 1 loss). I don't mind Washington, but it would justify playing no one.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #119 on: November 06, 2017, 02:27:52 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 06, 2017, 01:27:29 PM
If LSU had beaten Bama and USCe beat UGA and A&M beat Auburn, I'm pretty sure it would be obvious that the SEC's playoff shot took a hit.


Obvious to whom?
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #120 on: November 06, 2017, 02:29:15 PM »
There are enough one loss candidates (and undefeateds) to suggest we'll have four 1 loss or better teams in I think.

I think you can count on two from the SEC and ACC, possibly ND, TCU-OU, and U-Dubb, plus a 13-0 Wisky.

ND has some work cut out for it obviously.  UDubb has a reasonable remaining slate.  Clemson-Miami look like one lock.  TCU-OU might play each other twice, which would be IRONIC if they were 1-1 and knocked each other off.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #121 on: November 06, 2017, 02:40:05 PM »

Quote from: ELA on November 06, 2017, 09:52:17 AM
I hate how the narrative, due to the CFP, is what a "disaster" of a weekend this was for the Big Ten.  What we got was chaos and upsets, and a setup for a crazy finish, the stuff that makes college football great.

And because we've embraced a system that rewards the opposite, this is "terrible" for the Big Ten, instead of an exciting four week race to the Rose Bowl.
I agree nice to have a conf.rep in the CFBP but mayhem is fine & riveting.....now that the Buckeyes have been pansed.4 weeks left lets have the chaos it's a long off season
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #122 on: November 06, 2017, 02:43:09 PM »
Quote from: TresselownsUM on November 06, 2017, 11:44:20 AM
And because we've embraced a system that rewards the opposite, this is "terrible" for the Big Ten, instead of an exciting four week race to the Rose Bowl.

I understand what you're saying, but I'd still rather see a 12-0 Wisconsin vs a 1 loss OSU, PSU, MSU or whoever, even if we weren't in the BCS/playoffs era.

wouldn't you rather see 2 heavyweights slug it out vs a pair of "good" but not "great teams"?

The Iowa/MSU BIG 10 game was phenomenal, but part of what made that game BIG was the entire nation was watching knowing it was a play-in/elimination game whatever you want to call it.

I'll still watch it as a BIG 10 fan, but I want my conference champion to distinguish itself, I don't want to see a potential 4 way tie in the EAST with 4 7-2 teams vs a 1 or 2 loss wisconsion. now that doesn't mean other years I wouldn't mind seeing a UM, PSU, OSU, MSU all 7-2 if they were all truly great. but I think all 4 of those schools are just good this year, nothing spectacular.
Yes, I agree.  I'm just saying I don't like the incentives it sets up to call last wee "disastrous" for the Big Ten.  Basically we are saying that these big businesses/conferences stand to lose a lot of money, if their likely CFP teams suffer losses at the end of the year.

Iowa/MSU is immune to that because it was, as you said, a play in game.  No matter who won, the Big Ten was getting a CFP rep.

Now, from Delany's office, it is bad for business for Wisconsin to lose, and I don't like that having to be the mentality.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #123 on: November 06, 2017, 02:54:26 PM »
I'm hoping for more crazy upsets this coming weekend
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #124 on: November 06, 2017, 04:32:32 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 06, 2017, 02:43:09 PM
Yes, I agree.  I'm just saying I don't like the incentives it sets up to call last wee "disastrous" for the Big Ten.  Basically we are saying that these big businesses/conferences stand to lose a lot of money, if their likely CFP teams suffer losses at the end of the year.

Iowa/MSU is immune to that because it was, as you said, a play in game.  No matter who won, the Big Ten was getting a CFP rep.

Now, from Delany's office, it is bad for business for Wisconsin to lose, and I don't like that having to be the mentality.
Pfft. Delany's office is closed now that M and O are out of the picture. He couldn't give a shit less about the rest of the schools.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #125 on: November 06, 2017, 05:57:35 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 06, 2017, 04:32:32 PM
Pfft. Delany's office is closed now that M and O are out of the picture. He couldn't give a shit less about the rest of the schools.
He (and it's his job to) certainly likes more money for the conference.  And the last hope for getting a team in from the Big Ten rests on Wisconsin winning out.  I'm not sure what the answer is (and it's not just a Big Ten problem obviously), but you reach this point of the season, particularly in a year where all but one conference team has multiple losses, and the conference has a vested interest in protecting that remaining undefeated team.  It's not an ideal system in that regard.  Hell, the Big Ten could have avoided "negative" headlines if chalk had held this past weekend, like it did in the SEC when South Carolina and LSU both looked a lot more ho-hum than Michigan State and Iowa did.  Somehow having a nice soft middle to your conference is best for national perception.
Worked out well for the Big Ten last year when they conference went 4 deep followed by trash, and we got our CFP team (that didn't even reach Indy) and got all 4 into the NY6.  Doesn't lead to favorable results, but leads to favorable selections, and favorable $$$
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