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medinabuckeye1 · « **on:** November 24, 2017, 05:02:45 PM »

Pitt has done it again. Just like 2007 when they tripped up WVU, the Panthers have tripped up a team that seemed to be closing in on an NC.

The playoff implication is clear: The ACC will get one and only one team into the CFP. Previously there was a question of what the committee would do with a 12-1 Miami as compared to a potential 2-loss P5 Champion (mathematically this could be Auburn, Georgia, Oklahoma, TCU, USC, WSU, or Ohio State).

The committee has consistently put P5 Champions ahead of non-Champions with the same number of losses. Thus, I think that the only potential non-champions that are realistic threats for CFP berths are:

12-1 or 11-1 Bama
10-2 Notre Dame
12-1 Wisconsin

Playoff locks:

The SEC Champion. This will be either 13-0 Bama, 12-1 UGA, 11-2 UGA, or 11-2 Auburn
The ACC Champion. This will be either 11-1 Miami, 12-1 Clemson, or 11-2 Clemson

That is it and that leaves two spots up for grabs.

Bama winning out would eliminate UGA and Auburn as contenders and potentially open up room for ND, tOSU, USC, TCU, or WSU.

If Bama loses one of their last two, they are probably in as a one-loss non-Champion.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2017, 05:15:27 PM »

Nick Saban is a machine. I really don't see BAMA losing to Auburn and to the SEC East champ. They might lose one- and even then I think that's a stretch. They sure is as hell aren't going to lose both. I think it's a very high likelyhood that BAMA is in. Clemson and Miami will knock one of eachother out.

With the way Baker Mayfield has been playing, I think Oklahoma will win out and be in.

3 teams that are most likely in it- Bama, OU, MIA/Clem winner.

Wisconsin will have to beat Ohio State in the B1G CCG to get a playoff spot. I don't think they'll get the love to get in with 1 loss. I'd pick Wisconsin to beat Ohio State, but I don't have a ton of faith in Alex Honibrook. I think the aforementioned 3 teams will be in the playoff, and then Ohio State will throw a monkey wrench in this whole thing when they beat Wisconsin in the B1G CG. Who would be the 4th team in....I have no idea.

Drew4UTk · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2017, 05:26:31 PM »

bama will be out of the SEC CG with a loss to Auburn- and UGA will have to play Auburn again. they'd most likely lose that one too if it comes to happen, which reopens the door for Bama. damn circular logic.

if bama beats Auburn and loses to UGA, then both of them are likely in- and with ND tagging along due to the bumping of a strong loss. that is not likely to happen, though... but it could.

either Bama, Auburn or UGA will rep the SEC is all the certainty there is there.... outside chance there will be two.

i think USCe knocks Clemson down, who knocks Miami down another rung in their CCG.

Wiscy winning out is in...

OU and ND will argue about the fourth, and without the Stoops factor playing for the first time in a while, that will be an argument.

rook119 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2017, 05:30:38 PM »

I'd be shocked if Bama is left out now so pencil them in.

Teams in if they win out
-Sconnie
-UGA
-Clemson/Miami

Needs to win out and have Bama win out
-Oklahoma

Potential 2 loss teams
-Clemson
-Auburn
-Ohio State

I can't see any of the other 2 loss teams getting in.

FearlessF · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2017, 08:16:43 PM »

Clemson is out with 2 losses

a 2 loss ND team does not win an argument with a one-loss Sooner team

TyphonInc · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2017, 10:32:17 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on November 24, 2017, 05:15:27 PM

Nick Saban is a machine. I really don't see BAMA losing to Auburn and to the SEC East champ.

Alabama can only lose to 1. They won't play in the SEC Title game with a loss to Auburn.
Get Off My Lawn moment: For OSU my priorities have always been: 1) Beat M*ch**g*n! 2) Win the Big Ten 3) Play in the Rose Bowl.

With The Rose Bowl being part of the Playoff this I'm interested in scenarios that Get OSU to the Rose.

According to FPI, OSU is projected to win their next 2 games (Can they do it? Eye-Oh-Wah?) And, if all the favorites hold serve the easy answer is to include Ohio State in the playoff; but Oh ESPN:

ESPN talking heads are saying they would take 2 loss, non-conference champ Clemson over OSU because their 1 bad loss they didn't have their starting QB.

ESPN talking heads are also saying they would take a 2 loss, non-conference champ Notre Dame over OSU, because of their strength of schedule.

ESPN talking heads are saying they would take a 2 loss, non-conference champ Oklahoma over OSU because of Head to Head.

ESPN talking Heads are saying they would take a 2 loss, Pac12 champ USC over OSU because number of quality wins.

According to ESPN, OSU will not be in the playoff. So let's hop back on the BEAT M*CH*G*N! train.

CWSooner · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2017, 06:40:23 PM »

Quote from: TyphonInc on November 25, 2017, 10:32:17 AM

Alabama can only lose to 1. They won't play in the SEC Title game with a loss to Auburn.
Get Off My Lawn moment: For OSU my priorities have always been: 1) Beat M*ch**g*n! 2) Win the Big Ten 3) Play in the Rose Bowl.

With The Rose Bowl being part of the Playoff this I'm interested in scenarios that Get OSU to the Rose.

According to FPI, OSU is projected to win their next 2 games (Can they do it? Eye-Oh-Wah?) And, if all the favorites hold serve the easy answer is to include Ohio State in the playoff; but Oh ESPN:

ESPN talking heads are saying they would take 2 loss, non-conference champ Clemson over OSU because their 1 bad loss they didn't have their starting QB.

ESPN talking heads are also saying they would take a 2 loss, non-conference champ Notre Dame over OSU, because of their strength of schedule.

ESPN talking heads are saying they would take a 2 loss, non-conference champ Oklahoma over OSU because of Head to Head.

ESPN talking Heads are saying they would take a 2 loss, Pac12 champ USC over OSU because number of quality wins.

According to ESPN, OSU will not be in the playoff. So let's hop back on the BEAT M*CH*G*N! train.

It's almost like the worse Syracuse looks--and the Orange lost again today--the more ESPN emphasizes that injury to Clemson's QB. As if losing a guy with a 7:5 TD:INT ratio is the end of the world. And even if he were the best QB in college football, that whole rationale is baloney.

I wouldn't want Oklahoma to have a rematch with Ohio State in the playoff, but a 2-loss B1G-champion tOSU would be more deserving than a 2-loss non-champ Clemson.

Even if all else fails, today you did accomplish your first priority. That's not nothing.

FearlessF · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2017, 06:51:59 PM »

if Clemson can't beat the Canes, they are not deserving

the Canes are not that good

CWSooner · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2017, 06:57:49 PM »

Neither Clemson nor Miami has the body of work to go with 2 losses. One, and one only, ACC team in the CFP.

FearlessF · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2017, 06:59:05 PM »

hopefully only one SEC team as well

Mdot21 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2017, 07:02:46 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on November 25, 2017, 06:59:05 PM

hopefully only one SEC team as well

I'm with you but Alabama will still get in if Georgia loses. I think.
Clemson or Miami should get in- not both. Oklahoma should get in if they take care of business against TCU. Wisconsin should get in if they take care of business against Ohio State.
Will come down to who wins the SEC title.
Alabama's resume is just not that impressive. Who have they played? Auburn and that's pretty much it and Auburn just wiped the floor with them.

rook119 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2017, 07:04:47 PM »

Bama's schedule is kind of meh but they'll get in anyway.

FearlessF · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2017, 07:07:02 PM »

well, we need the badgers to beat Urban to really put pressure on the committee

will Big Jim Delany call Urban before the game to let him know he's screwed to avoid the temper tantrum on the sideline during the game when the zebras put in the fix?

FearlessF · « **Reply #13 on:** November 25, 2017, 07:08:24 PM »

does the Big 12 "fix" their conference champ game to get the Sooners in?

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