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Topic: Playoff field, impact of CCG's

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2024, 11:13:26 AM »
Multiple sources tell Channel 2 that Beck has a UCL elbow injury and it's a feeling that he will miss at least the Sugar Bowl.

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2024, 11:14:20 AM »
If some team was left out because of a tough OOC slate which caused them to lose, fair enough, don't schedule tough OOC games.  But I don't know of a team in that situation.  Who was left out because of some tough OOC loss?

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #157 on: December 09, 2024, 11:56:28 AM »
If some team was left out because of a tough OOC slate which caused them to lose, fair enough, don't schedule tough OOC games.  But I don't know of a team in that situation.  Who was left out because of some tough OOC loss?
sure as hell wasn't Bama or any other SEC team with an 8 game conf schedule
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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #158 on: December 09, 2024, 11:57:44 AM »
So, why complain about one's OOC schedule?  I can't think of a team remotely in the running where that caused them to be left out.  Your conference slate is out of your control.

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« Reply #159 on: December 09, 2024, 12:01:27 PM »
seems funny to me only because it will be very difficult for the AD at Bama to follow thru with his threat to weaken their non-con sched

like one guy said, "are they gonna play Mercer twice?"
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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #160 on: December 09, 2024, 12:14:26 PM »
I appreciate that [CBS] take on Ohio State. It highlights the playoff issue that we've talked about ad naseum. Regardless of how bad the loss to Michigan was, Ohio State is certainly good enough on their best day to win the title (see Alabama's arguments about inclusion--and a couple of its recent titles). Heck, they are good enough on their third or fourth best day to win the national title, depending on who they face, and how good a day that team has. There's no team in the field that Ohio State will be scared of.

I would put Penn State a little lower on the list--OSU did beat PSU in Happy Valley. PSU knows it has an uphill climb against at least two opponents. To my mind, it's the two SEC championship game participants, Oregon, and Ohio State who are most likely to win this thing. Notre Dame is interesting, but I agree that they don't have a big signature win. They did beat USC in Los Angeles, which isn't nothing (but also isn't mind blowing). They had an easier time of it than Penn State did.

Feels to me like Penn State got a break in the brackets, which will (probably) lead to playing the winner of ND/Georgia.
On the other side, the winner of Oregon/Ohio State is likely to get Texas.

I'll be surprised if it isn't one of those six teams, and a little surprised if it's Penn State--but if Georgia beats ND, but struggles at QB, that could be the opening for the Nittany Lions.

If I had to pick a winner right now, I'd pick Oregon. It would be Georgia, except for the injury to their QB. Oregon's path--having to play (likely) Ohio State, then Texas--looks like a tougher road than Georgia's, but...injuries.

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #161 on: December 09, 2024, 12:16:52 PM »
The playoff champion likely will have managed to win 2-3 very tough competitive games with luck being a factor in each.  Several teams appear to me to be "good enough".  And they all could well get upset on any given.

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #162 on: December 09, 2024, 12:48:50 PM »
I'm pondering the impact of the SEC CG and Beck's arm injury on the whole thing.  OK, winning the CG is nice, losing your starting QB some thought would be a top draft pick is not.  Past tense.


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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #163 on: December 09, 2024, 12:51:33 PM »
I'm pondering the impact of the SEC CG and Beck's arm injury on the whole thing.  OK, winning the CG is nice, losing your starting QB some thought would be a top draft pick is not.  Past tense.


Arguably Beck was a liability.  The Georgia offense played better in the second half with the backup.

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #164 on: December 09, 2024, 12:54:07 PM »
I'm pondering the impact of the SEC CG and Beck's arm injury on the whole thing.  OK, winning the CG is nice, losing your starting QB some thought would be a top draft pick is not.  Past tense.



Well, you didn't get the FSU treatment, so consider yourself fortunate.  

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #165 on: December 09, 2024, 01:05:24 PM »
The committee had no choice but to grant UGA a bye of course.  They could have slotted them at 4.

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #166 on: December 09, 2024, 01:39:09 PM »
The committee had no choice but to grant UGA a bye of course.  They could have slotted them at 4.

Yes, Cincy.....I am aware of the AQ component.  LOL

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Re: Playoff field, impact of CCG's
« Reply #167 on: December 09, 2024, 01:39:11 PM »
The committee had no choice but to grant UGA a bye of course.  They could have slotted them at 4.
Well technically they could have put Clemson in at 4 and kicked UGA out of the bye. 

Not that they realistically would have done that, of course. In the current system if the top 4 CCG winners weren't guaranteed byes, I could absolutely see them putting another team in the bye slot and moving Georgia down to 5th and Texas down to 6th. 

But of course there wasn't a truly viable team to put in there. The only way that would have happened IMHO is if:

  • Ohio State didn't lose to Michigan but lost to Oregon again in the CCG. At that point PSU would only have one loss and wouldn't have participated in the CCG and might move up to 4th (or higher), and Georgia out of the top 4. 
  • Ohio State didn't lose to Michigan and then beat Oregon in the CCG. At that point you'd have a definite argument that both Ohio State and Oregon would be top 4 one-loss teams and give potential cause to move Georgia out. 

That said, I'm not sure they would have dropped a one-loss CCG winner Georgia out of the top 4 even if the QB was out like they did to FSU, because unlike FSU they didn't have two games of sample size QB play to evaluate from the backup(s). 


 

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