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MrNubbz

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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #140 on: November 29, 2021, 01:56:19 PM »
Quote from: um1963 on November 29, 2021, 01:11:16 PM
 I'm not really sure there's a path for OSU at this point.  Two losses with no conference or division title makes it tough to overcome.
NOPE stick a fork in them as far as the P.O..Everyone ahead of them woould have to make like slugs in the salt lake
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #141 on: November 29, 2021, 01:58:59 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on November 29, 2021, 01:19:35 PM
Put the crack pipe down.  I don't see a way into the playoffs for Ohio State or any other two loss team. 
Bama could have been in the mix but War Eagle left them off the hook
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2021, 02:24:15 PM »


Quote from: Cincydawg on November 29, 2021, 01:45:33 PM
As noted, mayhem scenario, UM, UC, OkSU all lose, UGA blows out Bama 49-10 ... who ya got?

I'd be fine with that scenario.
So now Georgia beats Bama in a blowout all of a sudden? 

Okay, that might eliminate Bama with that new stipulation that you just sorta slid in there in hopes that it would go unnoticed. 

So lets start with the obvious. 
  • Undefeated SEC Champion Georgia
  • 1 loss Notre Dame

After that you'd have a trio of 2-loss Big Ten teams in Iowa, Michigan and Ohio State
  • Iowa would have a Big Ten Title
  • Michigan would have a H-H win over OSU, and they would be 11-2 instead of 10-2
  • OSU would be the odd man out

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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2021, 03:42:40 PM »
If Bama gets boat raced by Georgia and Michigan beats Iowa then I suppose it is possible that OSU would be considered the top 2-loss team over Bama.
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2021, 05:37:58 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2021, 02:24:15 PM
So now Georgia beats Bama in a blowout all of a sudden?

Okay, that might eliminate Bama with that new stipulation that you just sorta slid in there in hopes that it would go unnoticed.

So lets start with the obvious.
  • Undefeated SEC Champion Georgia
  • 1 loss Notre Dame

After that you'd have a trio of 2-loss Big Ten teams in Iowa, Michigan and Ohio State
  • Iowa would have a Big Ten Title
  • Michigan would have a H-H win over OSU, and they would be 11-2 instead of 10-2
  • OSU would be the odd man out
Do they leave Cincy out in this scenario?  They would have the head-to-head win at Notre Dame plus one more win than Notre Dame.  They'd kinda have to take a one loss Cincy if they're going to take ND.
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #145 on: November 29, 2021, 06:18:31 PM »
Quote from: um1963 on November 29, 2021, 05:37:58 PM
Do they leave Cincy out in this scenario?  They would have the head-to-head win at Notre Dame plus one more win than Notre Dame.  They'd kinda have to take a one loss Cincy if they're going to take ND.
Yes, Cincydawg stipulated that UC and OSU2 lose, Bama gets blown out. He also stipulated that Michigan loses, but I think that they have to win in order for this scenario to get OSU into the playoffs for reasons already mentioned a few posts ago. 
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #146 on: November 29, 2021, 06:44:04 PM »
Cincy has it's foot on ND's neck IMO.  ND can't get in ahead of them even if they lose this weekend.  So it would have to be:

Georgia undefeated
Cincy one loss
ND one loss
a two loss team (most likely a conference champ)
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #147 on: November 29, 2021, 06:46:29 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 28, 2021, 08:06:31 PM
Alabama is an underdog for the first time since 2015. 
Amazing, right?
But wait a second.  Alabama has lost 6 times since that game.  Maybe Saban isn't much of a HC.  6 losses as a favorite is embarrassing.  :57:
The last time they were underdogs, it was to a Grayson Lambert-led UGA team. It was 24-3 at halftime, and UGA cross the goal line 59 minutes and 50 seconds into the game. 
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #148 on: November 29, 2021, 06:48:48 PM »
Quote from: um1963 on November 29, 2021, 06:44:04 PM
Cincy has it's foot on ND's neck IMO.  ND can't get in ahead of them even if they lose this weekend.  So it would have to be:

Georgia undefeated
Cincy one loss
ND one loss
a two loss team (most likely a conference champ)
Cincy doesn't get in with a loss under any circumstances.
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #149 on: November 29, 2021, 06:55:22 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2021, 06:48:48 PM
Cincy doesn't get in with a loss under any circumstances.
I personally don't feel as if either Cincy or ND are worthy of a spot regardless of how the weekend plays out.  However, ND has zero business in the playoffs ahead of Cincy even if Cincy loses to Houston.
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #150 on: November 29, 2021, 06:56:59 PM »
Quote from: um1963 on November 29, 2021, 06:44:04 PM
Cincy has it's foot on ND's neck IMO.  ND can't get in ahead of them even if they lose this weekend.  So it would have to be:

Georgia undefeated
Cincy one loss
ND one loss
a two loss team (most likely a conference champ)
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2021, 06:48:48 PM
Cincy doesn't get in with a loss under any circumstances.
Yeah, Cincy has its foot on ND's neck as long as they finish undefeated, for the reason that I pointed out upthread... If Cincy is good, then their H2H victory keeps them ahead of ND. If Cincy isn't good, then ND's loss to Cincy is a really bad loss. 

If Cincy loses, ND may still require some chaos to get in. But if Cincy loses, they drop below ND without a doubt and they're not even a consideration for the CFP. In that case, any and every 2-loss P5 team is above Cincy. 
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #151 on: November 29, 2021, 07:35:50 PM »
Quote from: um1963 on November 29, 2021, 06:55:22 PM
I personally don't feel as if either Cincy or ND are worthy of a spot regardless of how the weekend plays out.  However, ND has zero business in the playoffs ahead of Cincy even if Cincy loses to Houston.

That's ridiculous. 

They wouldn't hesitate to move Notre Dame ahead of Cincinnati if Cincinnati loses. 

Notre Dame would have a "better loss" and a P5 schedule. 
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2021, 07:37:26 PM »
I was just trying to propose a scenario where OSU would get considered.  It takes some doing.

The Cincy-ND linkage is fascinating to me, I agree a UC loss kills their chances, but then does it kill ND's as well?  Or do they pretend the game never happened?

Would an 11-2 Bama get in over 11-1 ND?  Maybe.  The mayhem of this general sort would increase pressure for a larger playoff I think, but then you'd have a bunch of two loss teams one could argue don't deserve it, and the NY6 bowls would be irrelevant.

Imagine this mayhem with an 9 or 12 team playoff.  You'd probably have Ole Miss in the mix, and Baylor of course, and Oregon.
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Re: Playoff 4
« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2021, 08:36:55 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2021, 07:35:50 PM
That's ridiculous.

They wouldn't hesitate to move Notre Dame ahead of Cincinnati if Cincinnati loses.

Notre Dame would have a "better loss" and a P5 schedule.
Notre Dame lost at home to Cincy, has one less win and will sit at home and watch while Cincy plays in a conference championship game.  There is no rationale for ND making the playoffs while Cincy stays home. Yes ND played a P5 schedule but the majority of those teams finished in the bottom half of their conference.  And some of those games were embarrassingly close.

I like what Cincydawg had to say.  WTF do you do with the Cincy/ND linkage shitstorm if everything goes to hell this weekend?  The funny thing is that it's their own fault for the mess.  Cincy chose that shit schedule and ND refuses to join a conference and expects everyone to give them preferential treatment as a result.
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