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Topic: 2025 Penn State Season Thread

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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #140 on: October 15, 2025, 12:43:29 PM »
pretty sure the Husker's 3rd string guy is decent
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #141 on: October 15, 2025, 02:04:18 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on October 15, 2025, 11:31:01 AM

You’re saying Mike Elko might leverage a Penn St inquiry into a payday at A&M? (Obviously, I don’t see Elko leaving College Station.)

Speaking of Elko and Penn St, what does everybody think of Penn St considering Georgia Tech’s Brent Key?

Key reminds me A LOT of Elko. A nuts/bolts Xs/Os guy that slowly builds a strong foundation starting with the Lines. Doesn’t chase fools gold with Diva QBs/WRs.  Also doesn’t act like a media sensation, living for the next postgame rant. Which has to be pointed out because it’s so common now (Kiffin, Jimbo, Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley).

Key played at Georgia Tech and has since spent 24 of his last 25 years coaching only in the states of Florida, Georgia, and Alabama. So, for Penn St, Key would be a true outsider consideration.
Not singling out Penn State entirely, but basically the entire coaching carousel.  I'm not sure about Elko leaving CS, but coaches leave big programs all the time.  Heck, we pulled Fran (shudder) from Bama back in the day, it was at the time considered a pretty big coup.  We pulled Jimbo from FSU, for a year or two it looked like it was going to work.  I would almost argue once we took away any incentive to perform is exactly when Jimbo started mailing it in.  But as I pointed out, Elko has ties to the NE, he played CFB at UPenn, I have no idea what he wants to do.  I truly wouldn't think he'd want to go to State College, he's got a really good thing going here, and in terms of resources I'd put A&M ahead of PSU, but honestly I don't know much about PSU relative to A&M.  I do know that PSU is considered one of the top programs in CFB, but could they "out money" A&M?  I wouldn't think so.  
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #142 on: October 15, 2025, 02:07:23 PM »
But the facts have shown that anytime someone sniffs around a coach we want to keep (Fisher/LSU) we can't lock ourselves into stupid contracts fast enough.  We basically paid Jimbo a blank check, one of the most asinine contracts ever in history.  Would've been better off letting him walk, than being held hostage to a contract like that.  I'm told, supposedly by someone who may know, that the big boosters already had Jimbos buy-out covered, not really a big deal.  I wouldn't know, except I assume the AD wouldn't have fired him without the Big Wigs signing off on it.  
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #143 on: October 15, 2025, 02:09:24 PM »
Just from a town name perspective, I do think it would be pretty hilarious to leave College Station for State College. 
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #144 on: October 15, 2025, 02:16:13 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on October 15, 2025, 02:09:24 PM
Just from a town name perspective, I do think it would be pretty hilarious to leave College Station for State College.
I had the same thought.  

I hadn't really thought of it much, especially since PSU hasn't won the MNC in a long time, but are they considered a Blue Blood?  I know they're a "top program", but I wasn't sure on the BB status.  The first 7 or so seem real clear (not in any particular order)  OU/Tex/Bama/ND/UGA/Mich/OSU.  Seems like PSU would be in the "Top 12" type status, just outside BB, but able to get in depending on if NU/UTenn or somebody else continues to slip down the order.  
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #145 on: October 15, 2025, 02:17:30 PM »
So, Franklin was reasonably successful at PSU in number of wins, actually quite successful.  I have no opinion as to his firing, but I'd note fairly often programs that are reasonably successful strive to be ultra successful by firing their coach, over and over and over.  Now if they bag Cignetti, I'd say they probably upgraded, but other than him?

Not so sure.  They could do a Tennessee.
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #146 on: October 15, 2025, 02:18:19 PM »
My Blue Blood list has PSU outside but fairly close, about the same as UGA (who I don't include as a BB).

It's arbitrary of course.
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #147 on: October 15, 2025, 02:22:40 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 15, 2025, 02:17:30 PM
So, Franklin was reasonably successful at PSU in number of wins, actually quite successful.  I have no opinion as to his firing, but I'd note fairly often programs that are reasonably successful strive to be ultra successful by firing their coach, over and over and over.  Now if they bag Cignetti, I'd say they probably upgraded, but other than him?

Not so sure.  They could do a Tennessee.
Honestly, at 11 years in, if not now when?  
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #148 on: October 15, 2025, 02:24:57 PM »
There is a downside risk obviously.
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #149 on: October 15, 2025, 02:28:53 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 15, 2025, 02:24:57 PM
There is a downside risk obviously.
You don't say?
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #150 on: October 15, 2025, 02:32:23 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on October 15, 2025, 02:16:13 PM
I had the same thought. 

I hadn't really thought of it much, especially since PSU hasn't won the MNC in a long time, but are they considered a Blue Blood?  I know they're a "top program", but I wasn't sure on the BB status.  The first 7 or so seem real clear (not in any particular order)  OU/Tex/Bama/ND/UGA/Mich/OSU.  Seems like PSU would be in the "Top 12" type status, just outside BB, but able to get in depending on if NU/UTenn or somebody else continues to slip down the order. 
Yeah, I'd consider them BB-adjacent at this point, like a number of other historically strong teams. 

As weird as this sounds, I think PSU gets a bump from the iconic and traditional uniform, and how that [and other things] build their historic "brand". 

But I don't see them as the sort of team that's just one coach away from a potential run to dynasty. Because they're not a true blue blood.

I think of them as one of those teams that with the right coach should be making a 12-team CFP somewhere around half to two thirds of the time, but with enough in the talent level that they'd have a realistic shot to get lucky and win the whole damn thing every now and again--whereas I don't think a team like IU will ever be able to say that, with any coach. 
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #151 on: October 15, 2025, 02:55:59 PM »
Would Dan Mullen be interested? Would PSU be interested in him?

He's only 53 and has strong NE ties.
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #152 on: October 15, 2025, 04:21:44 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on October 15, 2025, 02:22:40 PM
Honestly, at 11 years in, if not now when? 
this. 

2025 was Franklin's all-in year like Michigan 2023 and OSU 2024 and he failed spectacularly. Penn State had the softest/weakest 2025 schedule of any contender, he brought his 4th year starting SR QB back, JR star RB duo back, spent money in the porthole to get WR's, and got a big name DC and paid him $3+ mil a year- the biggest salary ever for a DC- and he failed spectacularly 5-6 games into the season. 

their peak under him was last year- it wasn't going to ever get better than that. this was Year 12, it was time to move on from him. And if you look at his run from '22-24 he only beat 5 ranked teams in that entire 3 year run. That was the same amount of ranked teams that freaking Kentucky beat in that same timespan. 

guy was 3-18 I think vs Michigan and Ohio State- got his teeth kicked in every time he played those teams- and he was 2-23 vs Top 10 teams. I mean....jesus christ that is awful. 

they had no choice but to put a bullet in him and get rid of him imo. 
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Re: 2025 Penn State Season Thread
« Reply #153 on: October 15, 2025, 05:31:01 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 15, 2025, 02:55:59 PM
Would Dan Mullen be interested? Would PSU be interested in him?

He's only 53 and has strong NE ties.
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