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Topic: Penn State 2023 Season Thread

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2023, 09:14:26 AM »
This looks to be "The Year" for PSU and Michigan, and of course OSU isn't going away.  They can't all win it, but they should be top ten plus all year.

I remarked earlier how the comments on the first two teams sound, to me, a lot like UGA, so maybe that is the mold to which teams are headed?  It's really the Bama mold I think.  It can be cracked by outstanding QB/WR play such as OSU has had.


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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2023, 11:56:38 AM »
It sounds like this should be their year if they are to have one any time soonish.
‘24 might be their year honestly. 

Michigan is losing a ton of starters after this year and has a brutal schedule in ‘24 and OSU will be losing Marv and a lot on defense. 

Penn State will have an Allar with a full year under his belt both their stud RBs back and on their schedule in ‘24 they miss Michigan and get Ohio State at home. 

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2023, 02:12:15 PM »
The B1G Network's PSU Preview
The B1G Network's PSU Preview

Some interesting takeaways from the B1G crew:

-If wide receiver was a question, it is no longer a question
-Offensive line was dominating "at times."  (Don't think that's ever been said about a PSU team)
-Abdul Carter could be the B1G defensive player of the year

Last season, the PSU defense ranked:

#1 in the FBS on QB Pressure %, Pressures, and Hurries.
#4 in Tackles for Loss
#6 in Sacks
#7 in takeaways

(Note this is all pass defense, rushing defense was not nearly as good)





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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2023, 02:59:48 PM »
The B1G Network's PSU Preview
The B1G Network's PSU Preview

Some interesting takeaways from the B1G crew:

-If wide receiver was a question, it is no longer a question
-Offensive line was dominating "at times."  (Don't think that's ever been said about a PSU team)
-Abdul Carter could be the B1G defensive player of the year

Last season, the PSU defense ranked:

#1 in the FBS on QB Pressure %, Pressures, and Hurries.
#4 in Tackles for Loss
#6 in Sacks
#7 in takeaways

(Note this is all pass defense, rushing defense was not nearly as good)
how do you think their rush defense will stack up in '23? they getting any beefier on the interior? they're gonna have to stop Michigan and OSU's run games to at least split the series and go 1-1, which they'll have to do if they are gonna win the B1G. 

Henderson & Williams are both healthy going into the season, which means OSU run game should be better so long as they stay that way. Michigan is going to be really good running the ball with what they bring back at RB and got in the portal to beef up the OL. Penn State is gonna have to stop both those running games if they are to win the B1G. 

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2023, 04:29:09 PM »
how do you think their rush defense will stack up in '23? they getting any beefier on the interior? they're gonna have to stop Michigan and OSU's run games to at least split the series and go 1-1, which they'll have to do if they are gonna win the B1G.

Henderson & Williams are both healthy going into the season, which means OSU run game should be better so long as they stay that way. Michigan is going to be really good running the ball with what they bring back at RB and got in the portal to beef up the OL. Penn State is gonna have to stop both those running games if they are to win the B1G.
how do you think their rush defense will stack up in '23?

They improved dramatically after the Michigan debacle in '22.  Franklin even made a comment about how the young guys realized how important it was to stay in their gap and not to try and do too much after that game.  PSU allowed just over 1400 rushing yards in '22, and over 400 of those yards came against Michigan!   For the season, PSU allowed 3.31 yards per rush, which ranked 17th overall in the FBS. 

With that said, run defense is absolutely PSU's weak point.  I don't think they are likely to give up over 400 yards on the ground to Michigan again, but I don't exactly think they are going to hold them to less than 4 yards per carry, either.  Still, that's a pretty huge improvement, as PSU allowed Michigan to average over 7 yards per carry.

they getting any beefier on the interior?

It was one of Franklin's priorities to do so.  Almost all of the DTs put on significant pounds.  Beamon is up to 284 pounds (from 256), and Ellies is 302 Pounds (weight is about the same).  Those are the projected "starters", but the DTs are rotated often, so the biggest increases will be from the younger replacements.  Zane Durant is up 5 pounds to 280, Jordan van den Berg is up 15 pounds to 301, and Coziah Izzard should also be up 5-10 pounds (close to 300).

Henderson & Williams are both healthy going into the season, which means OSU run game should be better so long as they stay that way.

OSU averaged 3.8 yards per carry against PSU for 98 yards.  They have great talent, but I wouldn't consider them a power running team like Michigan is.  I feel fairly confident they will hold their own against OSU's rushing attack.

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2023, 07:21:23 AM »
The B1G Network's PSU Preview
The B1G Network's PSU Preview

Some interesting takeaways from the B1G crew:

-If wide receiver was a question, it is no longer a question
-Offensive line was dominating "at times."  (Don't think that's ever been said about a PSU team)
-Abdul Carter could be the B1G defensive player of the year

Last season, the PSU defense ranked:

#1 in the FBS on QB Pressure %, Pressures, and Hurries.
#4 in Tackles for Loss
#6 in Sacks
#7 in takeaways

(Note this is all pass defense, rushing defense was not nearly as good)





Watched that camp preview and I'm eager to see Penn State in action.  The West Virginia game should be a good first game of the season.  WVU's defense was not that great last year but they're no cupcake.  Penn State should be able to run on them so maybe we'll see their new QB Allar throw the ball around a bit.
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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2023, 11:41:51 AM »
Watched that camp preview and I'm eager to see Penn State in action.  The West Virginia game should be a good first game of the season.  WVU's defense was not that great last year but they're no cupcake.  Penn State should be able to run on them so maybe we'll see their new QB Allar throw the ball around a bit.
I don’t know.  WVU really isn’t expected to be very good this year.  In fact, they were picked dead last in the new 14 team Big 12 this year.  I figure Penn St can do about anything they want to offensively.  The defense was bad last year and there isn’t any reason to expect anything much different this year.

I want to see if WVU can move the ball on the ground against them, though.  The one thing WVU seems to have going for it is a veteran OL and what looks to be a decent stable of backs.  For the first time in several years WVU will have a running  threat at QB so zone reads and designed QB runs are expected to be back on the table.

Last I checked the line is 19.5. If WVU can keep it within 17 I’ll consider it somewhat of a moral victory.  I just don’t want one of these 35-7 type scores going into halftime.

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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2023, 04:05:06 PM »
I don’t know.  WVU really isn’t expected to be very good this year.  In fact, they were picked dead last in the new 14 team Big 12 this year.  I figure Penn St can do about anything they want to offensively.  The defense was bad last year and there isn’t any reason to expect anything much different this year.

I want to see if WVU can move the ball on the ground against them, though.  The one thing WVU seems to have going for it is a veteran OL and what looks to be a decent stable of backs.  For the first time in several years WVU will have a running  threat at QB so zone reads and designed QB runs are expected to be back on the table.

Last I checked the line is 19.5. If WVU can keep it within 17 I’ll consider it somewhat of a moral victory.  I just don’t want one of these 35-7 type scores going into halftime.
Strange things happen in those first games.  Especially with a new QB.  Especially a Franklin coached team.  (Franklin's teams usually get better as the year goes on)

In 2022 Penn State struggled against Purdue.
In 2021 they struggled against Wisconsin.
In 2020 they lost to Indiana
In 2019 they opened up against two patsies, but barely beat Pitt in game 3
In 2018 they they barely beat App State in overtime
In 2017 they started very strong, but returned nearly everyone from the previous year
In 2016 they played a patsy to start, and then lost to Pitt
In 2015 they lost to Temple
In 2014 they barely beat UCF on a field goal as time expired

In 9 years:
Losses: 2
Close wins: 4
Close wins after playing cupcakes: 1
Losses after playing a cupcake: 1
Comfortable wins: 1

This is also the first time since 2017 that Penn State returns both coordinators, so that might play a factor in these slow starts.

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2023, 09:21:33 PM »
6 Penn State players make the top 50 of Bruce Feldman's Freak List:

 9.  Chop Robinson, DE
15. Jordan van der Berg, DT
23. Olu Fashanu, OT
31. Nick Singleton, RB
38. Zane Durant, DT
43. Abdul Carter, LB

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2023, 07:18:24 PM »


A couple of thoughts: 

1.  These players replace what Franklin has called the best leadership he's ever had (2022 Captains)

2.  Theo Johnson is obviously out of the doghouse.

3.  Dom DeLuca is a rSophomore linebacker that is currently the "turnover king" of fall camp.  He's a nightmare on special teams, blocking a Minnesota punt last year.  He lead the special teams unit in tackles with 7.  He's a former walk-on that earned his scholarship last year, and also played a fair amount of snaps on defense. 

4.  Malick Meiga is a RS Junior WR.  He won the PSU award for the top special teams player in 2022.  He had 4 tackles and forced a fumble on special teams.  Although he has been mentioned a few times by James Franklin this fall, most publications have him as a 3rd string wide receiver.  

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2023, 12:56:00 PM »
Penn State announces top performers from preseason training camp:

1.  Most TD passes - Drew Allar 
(Note: Expected, but supposedly he and Pribula received similar reps -- Allar has still not been named the starter)

2.  Most TD receptions - KeAndre Lambert-Smith 
(note: Dante Cephus has only been on campus a few weeks, so this was expected -- Cephus is still learning the playbook)

3.  Takeaway Kings:  Daequan Hardy (CB) & true freshman Tony Rojas (LB).  
(Note:  Tony Rojas was mentioned in my very first post, he is almost certain to see significant playing time this year)

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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2023, 01:42:50 PM »
how do you think their rush defense will stack up in '23?

They improved dramatically after the Michigan debacle in '22.  Franklin even made a comment about how the young guys realized how important it was to stay in their gap and not to try and do too much after that game.  PSU allowed just over 1400 rushing yards in '22, and over 400 of those yards came against Michigan!  For the season, PSU allowed 3.31 yards per rush, which ranked 17th overall in the FBS. 

With that said, run defense is absolutely PSU's weak point.  I don't think they are likely to give up over 400 yards on the ground to Michigan again, but I don't exactly think they are going to hold them to less than 4 yards per carry, either.  Still, that's a pretty huge improvement, as PSU allowed Michigan to average over 7 yards per carry.

they getting any beefier on the interior?

It was one of Franklin's priorities to do so.  Almost all of the DTs put on significant pounds.  Beamon is up to 284 pounds (from 256), and Ellies is 302 Pounds (weight is about the same).  Those are the projected "starters", but the DTs are rotated often, so the biggest increases will be from the younger replacements.  Zane Durant is up 5 pounds to 280, Jordan van den Berg is up 15 pounds to 301, and Coziah Izzard should also be up 5-10 pounds (close to 300).

Henderson & Williams are both healthy going into the season, which means OSU run game should be better so long as they stay that way.

OSU averaged 3.8 yards per carry against PSU for 98 yards.  They have great talent, but I wouldn't consider them a power running team like Michigan is.  I feel fairly confident they will hold their own against OSU's rushing attack.

Penn State “ held” a lame Treyvon Henderson ( fractured foot), a gimpy Miyan Williams ( pulled hamstring) and fullback Mitch Rossi ( 1 carry, 9 yards) to 5.58 yards per carry.  It’s only when you add in QB sacks ( they are counted as runs) does it come down to the 3.8. 

OSU does not want to be a power running team.  They aim to put the defense in run pass conflict- and that’s why they lead the nation in yards per play last year. 
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Re: Penn State 2023 Preview
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2023, 01:44:03 PM »
How does PSU select captains? 
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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2023, 05:50:35 PM »
Penn State “ held” a lame Treyvon Henderson ( fractured foot), a gimpy Miyan Williams ( pulled hamstring) and fullback Mitch Rossi ( 1 carry, 9 yards) to 5.58 yards per carry.  It’s only when you add in QB sacks ( they are counted as runs) does it come down to the 3.8. 

OSU does not want to be a power running team.  They aim to put the defense in run pass conflict- and that’s why they lead the nation in yards per play last year. 
OSU’s 3 longest runs:  41 yards, 9 yards, 7 yards.  Other than those 3 runs, they pretty much went nowhere. 

 

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