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Topic: Peach Bowl: #10 Florida 41, #7 Michigan 15

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2018, 04:27:30 PM »
If course, if I'm right, the lines would shift to compensate.


Unless, for example with new coaches, the Vegas models do a poor job of accounting for the asymmetry of how much better they get during bowl practices than the more entrenched coaches.
I'm adding extra theories to your theory, so YMMV, but it at least sounds realistic.
And UF/M is one such new/entrenched coaching match up.

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2018, 04:27:52 PM »
The Peach for many years was SEC-v-ACC only, a system which worked for attendance.

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2018, 04:28:54 PM »
I think the betting public tends to think there is a larger difference between #6 and #12 than there actually may be in terms of points.


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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2018, 08:59:07 PM »
We're not a very good 10th-ranked team.  Michigan should win by 2+ scores.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2018, 09:49:55 PM »
Michigan beat Florida what 41-3 in that bowl game in 2015 season?

Beat Florida again 33-17 in the regular season opener in 2017. Probably would’ve beaten them 33-3 had that bum Speight not thrown back to back pick 6s.

Kinda hard to get pumped playing them again. Was hoping to play LSU or Georgia. 

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2018, 10:27:47 PM »
can't say I blame any kid for sitting after what happened to him. It's amazing he's even playing football in the NFL let alone looking like an up and coming star LB. His injury was one of the more gruesome I've ever seen. He went from being a top 5 pick to 2nd round. That's a huge difference in up front, guaranteed money.
I'd advise any one to sit that's a sure fire NFL draft pick unless they were playing in the CFB playoff.
Yeah, I think you can totally understand it, and still hate it as a fan.
I still wonder why there is an imaginary line between the regular season and the bowls.  What was MSU playing for against Rutgers in the finale that they aren't against Oregon?  They were 6-5, they were going to a meh bowl either way.  If you are going to sit out Oregon, why not sit out the Rutgers game too?

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2018, 10:40:36 PM »
For me, the most interesting developmental windows of the game for Michigan:

Defense

  • The future at DE: how do Paye, Uche and Hutchinson finish their first years of playing time? Will Luiji Vilain ever be healthy?
  • The brightest present and only future at NT: after a season of injury-riddled non-existence, will Aubrey Solomon play?
  • Will Don Brown keep splitting Josh Ross and Devin Gil 50/50 at OLB or finally acknowledge that Ross deserves 95+% of those snaps?
  • In 2019: How will Ambry fit in, and will we see that in the Peach or more of Brandon Watson. Given BWat's final game, I'm guessing we wait, which is imperfect but a lot better than OK against anyone except OSU (and I assume Bama or OU).
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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2018, 10:41:25 PM »
Offense

  • Really like the personnel here (finally). Especially on OL. The main question is approach. At what point if ever do we return to a more dynamic passing attack. I don't mean Mike Leach. I mean 2015 Michigan when Harbaugh first arrived. That's a far spikier offense. (Schemes itself to punch above its weight class)
  • As for the future: With 4/5 OL returning, plus every receiver, TE, and the QB ... I don't really have any nonschematic questions. The future at RB, I guess. But unless Chris Evans starts figuring more into the passing game, the real future is probably still in high school in California.

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2018, 10:48:07 PM »
Yeah, I think you can totally understand it, and still hate it as a fan.
I still wonder why there is an imaginary line between the regular season and the bowls.  What was MSU playing for against Rutgers in the finale that they aren't against Oregon?  They were 6-5, they were going to a meh bowl either way.  If you are going to sit out Oregon, why not sit out the Rutgers game too?
I think the bowl practices (for the teams) can be worth a helmet's weight in your precious metal of choice without the non-CFP (+/- NY6) bowl games (for fans) being worth it in toilet paper.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2018, 10:15:31 AM »
With the Michigan defense as it is (sans one game), I don't see much of a shot for the Gators here.  They are challenged on offense anyway.  Turnovers of course can change that, somewhat.  They might slow Michigan down and keep the score lowish.

Maybe.


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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2018, 10:54:08 AM »
My main concern is Michigan waking into a shock because Mullen got his players to leap ahead with their bowl practices.
That's the thing about first year coaches. They've only had two camps to develop their players. Most of the rest is staying afloat with what ya got.

Put another way: In predicting this game, increasing UF's Mullen Camps count by 50% ups the variance.

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2018, 11:04:30 AM »
My main concern is Michigan waking into a shock because Mullen got his players to leap ahead with their bowl practices.
That's the thing about first year coaches. They've only had two camps to develop their players. Most of the rest is staying afloat with what ya got.

Put another way: In predicting this game, increasing UF's Mullen Camps count by 50% ups the variance.

It's a great chance for Mullen to display his coaching excellence.  Taking on a team that handed Florida their scaly behind last year.
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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #54 on: December 12, 2018, 02:19:25 PM »
O'Maury Samuels dismissed following being charged with domestic violence

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Re: Peach Bowl: #7 Michigan (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2018, 03:23:30 PM »
O'Maury Samuels dismissed following being charged with domestic violence
What a waste of insane genetics and god given athletic ability. It really kind of surprises me that he and Kareem Walker both busted out and did absolutely nothing. Walker fell from his 5* pedestal with a very disappointing senior season but he was still a talented back. Samuels was an athletic freak who came out of nowhere to destroy all those NIKE opening camp records with his insane testing #’s and his ripped physique. Kid was 195 in high school built like a tank with muscles on top of muscles. Looked like he weighted 230 he was so jacked. 
Neither one of them did squat. You can’t have that if you’re Michigan. You need your most talented backs to develop and pan out. Not fizzle out. Samuels was by far the best athlete they recruited at the position in like a decade. Sad.

 

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