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CWSooner · « **Reply #126 on:** July 02, 2019, 06:17:07 PM »

Interesting that the number of conference games varied that much from year to year.

One expects stuff like that from 100+ years ago, but not in the modern era.

Here's a look at The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry
The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #127 on:** July 02, 2019, 06:22:58 PM »

I think the old SEC was a kind of "confederation" (huh) of schools that occasionally played each other, or not. I don't even know if there was a commissioner or board or anything. Many titles of course were shared.

I think Tech got uppity and left thinking they could be Notre Dame of the south.

I truly would like to drop them from the schedule.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #128 on:** July 26, 2019, 11:03:47 PM »

Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on June 28, 2019, 07:39:24 AM

What P5 programs have never squared off against your school on the gridiron?

For OSU, it is Iowa St, Kansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest.

Iowa St and Kansas stand out as odd, being in the Midwest. Georgia Tech and Ole Miss would probably be the most intriguing match ups in that group.

What are some other P5 schools that have never played against one another?

I suppose you could put an asterisk for Louisville and Utah, as OSU hasn't played either team since they were elevated to P5 status. The Buckeyes played Louisville twice in the 90s, and the Utes once in the 80s.

The Wolverines of course have had a few games with the Utes...

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #129 on:** July 27, 2019, 12:48:29 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on July 02, 2019, 02:13:36 PM

This was one of the arguments used against having a x-div rival in the original B12. Aside from Nebraska-Oklahoma, the rest of the pairings would have been pretty random and meaningless. I think it would have been worth it to preserve that as an annual rivalry, but nobody asked me to make the decisions back in 1995.

I think the most likely pairing for Texas would have been Colorado, and that would have been fine with me. Over the late 80s/early 90s, the Longhorns and Buffs had played several times and established a little bit of a mini-rivalry already, so seeing that increase and deepen would have been a lot of fun, I think.

That's great, until you start looking at who was paired with who else. SEC West programs should (were?) have been mad that Ole Miss was with Vanderbilt - a virtual gimmie a vast majority of the time. Texas Tech or somebody could steal a few XII South titles because they'd been randomly paired with Kansas or some other easy out.

A small minority of schools should not hold the rest of the conference hostage like that, period.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #130 on:** July 27, 2019, 08:44:47 AM »

I was glad to have been matched with Oklahoma to get that one checked. (I was not so happy just before half time of course.)

I worried that the 9 game conference slate would diminish the frequency of Big OOC pairings. Then I looked at Tennessee's OOC slate this year with only 8 conference games and sighed. BYU is their toughest opponent, at home of course.

I think everyone should play ten P5 opponents each year. Two pastries is enough.

If your team is good, you get 2-3 pastries in conference play anyway.

FearlessF · « **Reply #131 on:** July 27, 2019, 09:16:38 AM »

I'm worried that the Big Ten will go back to 8 conference games

I'd rather go to 10

Cincydawg · « **Reply #132 on:** July 27, 2019, 10:12:40 AM »

I would rather play 8 and 2 P5 OOC opponents, ten total. I'd rather have 12 team conference too, but that dog has run the course.

I guess adding Mizzou and A&M was a net benefit, not so sure about Maryland and Rutgers.

Laville was IMHO a disaster. Pitt? Meh. Everybody rushed to grab someone. Now we're stuck.

FearlessF · « **Reply #133 on:** July 27, 2019, 10:33:53 AM »

it seems like you're right, we're stuck, but things can be changed. Subtractions can be made.

10 team conferences with 9 games would be the best

12 team conferences with 9 or 10 games would be better than what we have now.

as TV changes, if ever, and quality content becomes more valuable, we could see teams that carry little value such as Laville get left out and conferences become smaller again

Cincydawg · « **Reply #134 on:** July 27, 2019, 10:45:30 AM »

I personally like Big OOC games. I think most of us do. There are so few NOW that really matter it makes making comparisons difficult.

The number this season appears to me to be lower than normal. I saw some list of top 15 OOC games and half of them were ridiculous.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/college-football-best-nonconference-games-2019/1drlcad7cs1ik1e7g3v2k4mb90

They list FAU at Ohio State at #15, Come on. Duke at Alabama is #7!!!! BS.

Only the top 3 are really relevant to the playoff situation barring a large upset.

Brutus Buckeye · « **Reply #135 on:** July 27, 2019, 11:50:16 AM »

FAU is dead last in the list of OSU OOC games that I am looking forward to. They are only playing it because they had to scramble to find an opponent when the TCU series got switched to a one off neutral site game.

Cincinnati is the most compelling game on OSU's OOC slate by any conceivable metric. In state opponent, coming off of an 11-2 season, the whole Luke Fickel story line, etc.

FAU was 5-7 last year, en route to a 5th place finish in CUSA East. Even the Miami Redhawks coming off of a 6-6 season is more compelling than an out of state FCS call up who is noteworthy only because they "have Lane Kiffin" as if that were something to be proud of.

utee94 · « **Reply #136 on:** July 27, 2019, 04:53:03 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 27, 2019, 12:48:29 AM

That's great, until you start looking at who was paired with who else. SEC West programs should (were?) have been mad that Ole Miss was with Vanderbilt - a virtual gimmie a vast majority of the time. Texas Tech or somebody could steal a few XII South titles because they'd been randomly paired with Kansas or some other easy out.

A small minority of schools should not hold the rest of the conference hostage like that, period.

That's a VERY fair point, OAM, and very possibly the one used by the B12 in 1995 to decide against the x-div rivalry game.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #137 on:** July 27, 2019, 05:15:52 PM »

Yeah, my point obviously is that the number of really engaging OOC games in 2019 appears to me to be very low. If Duke at Alabama is #7 on any list, there's your sign.

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