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Topic: P5 Teams that have Never Played

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2019, 02:20:13 PM »
By the time it was played that game was effectively the NC because #4 Ohio State had already knocked off #2 ASU.  Thus the winner of #3 UF vs #1 FSU was pretty much guaranteed the NC. 

I know this well because I listed to that game on the radio in the van on the way home from Pasadena while rooting for a close and ugly UF win over FSU and all the while knowing that even that wouldn't realistically be enough for my Buckeyes. 
If it had been a playoff, I figure Florida drills ASU, but FSU-OSU would've been a helluva game.  Of course, the Gators mop up the tired winner.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2019, 02:20:21 PM »
Vanderbilt
I misread your post, this is getting to be too much of a habit.

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #86 on: July 01, 2019, 02:21:22 PM »
There has been some talk about realignment, with Auburn switching with Mizzou.  Meh, whatever.

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #87 on: July 01, 2019, 02:22:10 PM »
Why do old people say WaRshington?  Or is it only Lee Corso?


What Price did at WSU was nothing short of spectacular.  His good seasons there weren't just big-offense/good luck, they stopped the run, too.  Helluva coaching job.
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« Reply #88 on: July 01, 2019, 02:23:15 PM »
There has been some talk about realignment, with Auburn switching with Mizzou.  Meh, whatever.
HAHAHAHAHA

The Bama-Auburn-UGA-Tenn quartet would never let that happen.  They're the reason the rest of the conference has invented, permanent, cross-division rivals, so that they can.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #89 on: July 01, 2019, 02:27:20 PM »
You could put Auburn in the East and pair them with Bama, and allow Tennessee to avoid annual embarrassment.

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #90 on: July 01, 2019, 02:51:04 PM »
As long as the SEC HQ is still located in the Birmingham metro (which makes little sense IMHO, should be Atlanta), there's no way Alabama and Auburn will be put in separate divisions. 

With that being said, many Bama fans (especially the 50+ crowd) would rather keep the Tennessee rivalry than the Auburn one if it came down to a choice.  Tennessee hasn't been very competitive lately, but "Vols" is a four-letter word in many Alabama households and most are wise enough to know that the annual spankathons aren't going to last forever.

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #91 on: July 01, 2019, 03:09:37 PM »
You could put Auburn in the East and pair them with Bama, and allow Tennessee to avoid annual embarrassment.

Bama, Auburn, UGA, and Florida in one division is too much, long-term.  You'd be giving LSU a free pass to Atlanta more times than not.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #92 on: July 01, 2019, 03:43:41 PM »
Bama, Auburn, UGA, and Florida in one division is too much, long-term.  You'd be giving LSU a free pass to Atlanta more times than not.
I think that Cincy meant put Auburn in the East and have Bama be the cross-divisional rival.  That would let Missouri move to the West.
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #93 on: July 01, 2019, 03:54:23 PM »
Looking at Brutus' list from the OP of schools that Ohio State has never played, here are their AP Poll histories (all are out of 1,151 total polls over 83 seasons):
 - Iowa State:  48 appearances (4%), one appearance in the top-10 (2002) never higher than #9.  1 preseason ranking, 2 final rankings.  
 - Kansas:  109 appearances (9%), 38 top-10 appearances, 9 top-5 appearances, 1 appearance at #2, never #1.  6 preseason rankings including one top-10, 7 final rankings including 3 top-10's.  
 - Mississippi:  289 appearances (25%), 124 top-10 appearances, 61 top-5 appearances, 21 appearances in the top-2, 5 appearances at #1.  18 preseason rankings including 11 top-10, 4 top-5, 2 #2 and 1 #1, 25 final rankings including 11 top-10, 4 top-5, and 2 #2.  
 - Mississippi State:  202 appearances (18%), 19 top-10 appearances, 8 top-5 appearances, 5 appearances at #1.  8 preseason rankings and 14 final rankings including 1 top-10.  
 - Georgia Tech:  306 appearances (27%), 146 top-10 appearances, 58 top-5 appearances, 13 appearances at #2.  14 preseason rankings including 7 top-10's and 3 top-5's, 24 final rankings including 11 top-10's, 5 top-5's and 2 #2's.  
 - Wake Forest:  42 appearances (4%), never higher than #11.  1 preseason ranking and 4 final rankings.  

By comparison Ohio State has 902 appearances (78%), 622 top-10's, 372 top-5's, 187 top-2 appearances, and 105 appearances at #1.  65 preseason rankings including 43 top-10's, 27 top-5's, 16 top-2's, and 8 #1's along with 58 final rankings including 38 top-10's, 27 top-5's, 12 top-2's, and 5 #1's.  

Of that group obviously GaTech and Ole Miss stand out but the vast majority of Ole Miss' damage was done 40+ years ago with only sporadic success since then.  GaTech seems a little more consistent lately but they are still awfully sporadic with a really good year in 2009 (15 polls, high of #9) but only 21 appearances in the nine years since.  

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #94 on: July 01, 2019, 03:59:14 PM »
I think that Cincy meant put Auburn in the East and have Bama be the cross-divisional rival.  That would let Missouri move to the West.
Then UGA and UTK would pout.  Can't have any helmets pouting.  Just stick Mizzou in the East.  Makes about as much sense as putting the Braves in the NL West for 4 decades.....
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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #95 on: July 01, 2019, 04:19:59 PM »
In researching the above post I noticed that Ohio State has been ranked in 80 of the 83 years of the AP Poll's existence.  The three exceptions are 1947, 1966, and 1967.  

1947:  The Buckeyes finished 1946 at 4-3-2 so it is not surprising that they started 1947 unranked.  The site I use does not consistently show ORV (Others Receiving Votes) back then so I can't tell if the Buckeyes were close or not.  They started the year with a win over Mizzou but that was the closest they would have gotten because after that they lost two straight (PU, USC) then had a tie (IA), then lost two more.  

1966:  It must be noted here that from 1962-1967 the AP Poll only ranked 10 teams so the fact that Ohio State was unranked for all of the 1966 and 1967 seasons doesn't necessarily mean that they were out of the top-25 or even the top-20 but only that they were not in the top-10.  The Buckeyes started 1965 ranked #10 but fell out of the poll before they even played a game then lost their opener to UNC and never got back in.  They finished 1965 7-2 and seventh among "other's receiving votes" so theoretically 17th but unranked in that 10-team era.  To start 1966 the Buckeyes were 15th among ORV so theoretically 25th but unranked.  They won their opener over TCU and moved up to 9th among ORV so theoretically 19th then lost three straight and finished sub .500 at 4-5.  

1967:  After a terrible year in 1966 (see above) it is not surprising that the Buckeyes started 1967 unranked but they were ninth among ORV so theoretically 19th.  Ohio State's first game in 1967 was not until September 30 so there were three polls before that (preseason, 9/18, and 9/25).  The Buckeyes were 9th and 12th among ORV in the first two then got no votes in the 9/25 poll.  Then they lost their opener (Zona) and had two more losses in their first five games to drop to 2-3 and obviously unranked.  After that the Buckeyes reeled off four straight wins to finish 1967 at 6-3 but they were still unranked and without votes in that 10 team era but they had done well enough to start 1968 at #11 when the poll returned to 20 teams for the 1968 season.  

Once the Poll went back to 20 teams the Buckeyes were ranked in nearly every poll (91.2%) from 1968-1985.  

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #96 on: July 01, 2019, 04:55:25 PM »
I can't imagine any SEC fandoms being happy being in the "North" division, to be honest.
So go with South and Deep South.

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Re: P5 Teams that have Never Played
« Reply #97 on: July 01, 2019, 05:07:09 PM »
I think Nebraska's list is three.

Boston College
Virginia
Vanderbilt

Amending to add Kentucky. 

 

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