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Topic: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #224 on: March 25, 2018, 07:35:56 PM »
Well as a closed system - 64 schools, all within the same framework, strength-of-schedule discrepancies would dissipate over time.  

No lower-tier scheduling.  No one-way payout games.  All OOC contracts would be equal home-and-home.  That's the 'socialist' aspect of it.  As is the playing everyone else in your conference every 2 years.  

Teams with 5 conference road games would get 2 OOC home games.  Teams with 4 conference road games only get 1 OOC home game, then vice-versa the next year.  Everyone ends up with a 6/6 home/road split every year.  It's easy.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #225 on: March 25, 2018, 07:42:40 PM »
I see problems presented. I'm looking for solutions.
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« Reply #226 on: March 25, 2018, 09:30:30 PM »
I tied it all up into a nice bow. Fear no more.  Now just implement it :)
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #227 on: March 26, 2018, 07:10:15 AM »
16 school conferences are bubbles, and all bubbles burst eventually. Not sustainable.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #228 on: March 26, 2018, 03:11:41 PM »
Because......you said so?

3 annual games, 6 that alternate every other year, plus OOC games vs only the other 63 teams on your level....with an even number of home/away games for all?   

Hell, you might get an SEC school up in Madison with my setup!
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #229 on: March 26, 2018, 03:26:51 PM »
Not because I said so.

History says so.
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« Reply #230 on: March 26, 2018, 11:39:57 PM »
You mean the sample size of one...
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« Reply #231 on: March 27, 2018, 08:56:12 AM »
No, I mean a sample size of all bubbles.

There are bubbles in real estate, finance, investment, government, college degrees, etc. And yes, one ill-fated attempt by a conference, but that's not the point.

The point is that all bubbles burst. 16 school conferences are bubbles. 14 is already too many.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #232 on: March 27, 2018, 09:07:47 AM »

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #233 on: March 27, 2018, 09:17:23 AM »
When I was in Madison I took an elective course that was in Civil Engineering and cross-listed in the Math department. Hydrodynamics.

For the final exam I had to orally develop the equations for a bubble forming in oil, and the energy within, through the bursting point. Heat was involved. Everything was recorded on the blackboard. A professor and a TA sat in.

That was a bitch. Not sure why I took that class. I left a lot of brain cells on the blackboard that day. I know I could not solve that problem today, have never needed to do so again, and never will.

But bubbles do burst. I remember that part well. Chaos ensues.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #234 on: March 27, 2018, 09:24:32 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 27, 2018, 08:56:12 AM
No, I mean a sample size of all bubbles.

There are bubbles in real estate, finance, investment, government, college degrees, etc. And yes, one ill-fated attempt by a conference, but that's not the point.

The point is that all bubbles burst. 16 school conferences are bubbles. 14 is already too many.
Again, this is just you saying so.  Now many of you have come a long way, but still, you B10 lot have this need to look backward.  It ain't happening.  We're not going back to 10 teams.  
What you call a bubble, I call the inevitable norm.  Your assertion of a bubble doesn't make it so.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #235 on: March 27, 2018, 09:30:36 AM »
The bubble isn't 16 team conferences, the bubble is the tv deals.  Without the tv deals, 16 team conferences make zero sense.  If the tv money dries up, it doesn't continue to make sense for Maryland to fly it's teams to Nebraska, Iowa and Minnesota on a regular basis.  That part is a fact.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #236 on: March 27, 2018, 09:44:09 AM »
I mentioned the TV money back on page one or two, I think, and on occasion throughout this thread.

The bubble IS 16 school "conferences" in this case. The driver today is TV, and the motivation is to get bigger as a result. It's a cause and effect.

Going to 16 will have an effect - the bubble will burst.

Contracting to a lesser number is much more sustainable for the long-term. To sacrifice long-term stability for a short-term money grab is not a good plan.

As ELA states, it makes no sense for Maryland to share a conference with Nebraska or Iowa or Wisconsin or Minnesota aside from the current TV contract. Without that, there is no affiliation. None.

Again, to hitch your wagon based on one factor - TV - is short-sighted at best, and disastrous at worst.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #237 on: March 27, 2018, 11:36:28 PM »
We don't know that current/past TV monies are all there will be going forward.  Sure, it'll drop off big time, but college football may yet find another method of raking in the dollars to show the product.  It could be something that isn't even a thing yet.  

There's nothing inherently wrong with 16-team conferences.  Just because you don't dig it doesn't mean it's 'bad'.
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