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Topic: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-5) vs. South Carolina (9-4) Post Game

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Mdot21

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Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-5) vs. South Carolina (9-4) Post Game
« on: December 03, 2017, 11:36:28 PM »
So apparently VegasInsider which released the initial line for the game on their site had a snafu and the line was suppose to be Michigan favored by 8.5, not South Carolina.

Sagarin rates Michigan #21 and South Carolina #42.

S&P+ rates Michigan #21 and South Carolina at #66. They favor Michigan by 9 points.

Harbaugh says Brandon Peters is healthy, #1 QB  in practice, will start the bowl game and J'OKe the backup. Speight will be there on the sideline with the team but not dress.

Harbaugh also said Tarik Black could play but he's still eligible for a redshirt so they'll probably not play him and burn his shirt. This is a mistake to me. Tarik Black isn't staying at Michigan for 5 years. He is a future NFL receiver.

Just speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if Maurice Hurst Jr sat out. He's being projected in every updated mock draft I've seen as a top 20 pick in the upcoming NFL draft.
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Re: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4) - Outback Bowl
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 06:30:40 AM »
The Outback & Citrus Bowls like to stick to picking a strict set of the same teams over and over again - Michigan, Florida, Iowa, LSU, S.C., Georgia, etc. I was rooting for Michigan to face Stanford in the Holiday Bowl. Very much would've looked forward to how the trench warfare between those two teams would've played out.

As for this game, Michigan has plenty of reason to better their average record and I expect them to play motivated and low out a team that isn't as good as their W/L record and is essentially the same Florida team that Michigan has already blown out twice in recent seasons.

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Re: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4) - Outback Bowl
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2017, 07:47:48 AM »
How the Sam Hill is this a New Years Day Bowl?

I really wish Big Jim would flip the script, and let the teams pick the bowl they want to go to.
Here is a strict ordered list 1-10 of the of the bowls and here is our 1-14 placement of conference standings. Match them up and here we go. The only exception is the Team can choose to self regulate down a bowl if they have recently played there.

That said, Go Big Ten. I can't quite bring myself to say go Bl...bl...b.
Yah I can't do it.

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Re: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4) - Outback Bowl
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 08:23:43 AM »
USCe is better than I expected preseason and was getting better over the season.  They stood up to UGA in Athens fairly well (24-10) and slowed the Dawgs down on the ground.  Clemson beat them rather handily of course.

They are decent on defense and their QB is solid, if not spectacular, and has some wheels.

Michigan of course is solid on defense and should be able to keep USC around 10 points and should be able to score 17 or so at least I think.  This isn't a great matchup for USCe IMHO.


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Re: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4) - Outback Bowl
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 08:43:32 AM »
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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 10:28:31 AM »
Easily the most favorable Big Ten bowl matchup

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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 11:55:35 AM »
Easily the most favorable Big Ten bowl matchup
I agree. If they don't win that game with a healthy Peters, will be a huge embarrassment.

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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 10:04:41 AM »
So....South Carolina fires their OC today, less than 4 weeks from their bowl game. Kinda strange, no? Don't teams usually wait until after the bowls and NSD to make staff changes?

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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2017, 04:19:57 PM »
@nickbaumgardner
Maurice Hurst says he’s not sure if he’s going to play in the bowl game. Will discuss it with his family.


looks like Mo Hurst might sit the bowl game. I really think he should. Every mock I have seen has him solidly as the #1 DT prospect in the draft and in the top 20 overall picks in the next draft. No reason to risk that or his future. That kid was an excellent player and teammate over his last 5 years at Michigan. Would HATE to see what happened to Butt happen to him.

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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 09:34:26 PM »
Mo Hurst Jr to play in the bowl game. Consider me shocked. Glad he's helping the team, but I can't help but think he's making a big mistake.

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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 01:55:02 PM »
bowl practice photos have leaked out with the 1st team OL looking like

LT- Mason Cole
LG- Mike Onwenu
C- Pat Kugler
RG- Cesar Ruiz
RT- Ben Bredeson

Will be interesting to see if that's the OL line-up this bowl game. I'd like to see that line-up. Bredeson seems to have trouble with double teams and identifying who to pick up in pass pro at LG. That probably gets mitigated a little bit at RT where he's more than likely just going to go 1 on 1 with an edge rusher.

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Re: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4) - Outback Bowl
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2017, 02:01:32 PM »

Taylor Lewan was giving Clowney the business one on one most of that game.
So naturally, in a critical spot in the game in the 4th QTR- Borges calls a play where Taylor Lewan is suppose to run down to block the DT next to Clowney and the TE/FB are suppose to take on Clowney together. Except neither the TE or FB ever touch Clowney and he goes completely untouched and blows up a 5'6, 165 pound RB.
One of the most overrated plays in history if you ask me. He was literally not even touched. TE/FB blew their blocking assignments. Not like he made some amazing play to beat a double team. Wasn't touched at all and blew up a 5'6, 165 pound RB. That's what someone with his talent should do every single play if they aren't touched.

Horrible call, horrible execution. You put your best man on Clowney- which was Lewan- and you man him up all game long- never take him off. Stupid call by Borges, stupid execution by the TE/FB.
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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 02:09:21 PM »
Apparently a fight broke out during the bowling event last night between the teams.  Good, maybe the game will have a little extra juice now.

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Re: Outback Bowl: Michigan (8-4) vs South Carolina (8-4)
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2017, 06:19:28 PM »
Apparently a fight broke out during the bowling event last night between the teams.  Good, maybe the game will have a little extra juice now.
yeah, saw that. in the grand scheme of things, don't think it'll matter much. I think these sort of things are over-hyped.
S&P+ likes Michigan by 9.5 points I think it was.

Peters is getting the start, and has looked sharp in practices according to all the sources. Sounds like the Patterson transfer may have lit a fire under his ass. Always liked what I saw out of Peters. He wasn't asked to do very much and that OL was pretty much sh@!t at pass blocking so it's really hard to tell how good he can be, but I like the raw material that's there a hell of a lot better than what Speight or O'Korn had.

Michigan's OL was in the top 10 in adjusted run block according to the S&P+. The OL was in the 100's in adjusted pass blocking. If the Michigan OL can get their sh@!t together and give Peters some protection, I think Michigan more than likely wins by a comfortable margin. Kinda a big if though, because the pass protection has been terrible all year long.

 

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