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« Reply #3206 on: March 31, 2024, 09:19:41 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The Alhambra Decree Is Issued (1492)
Fourteen years after Ferdinand II and Isabella I, the "Catholic Monarchs" of Spain, established the Spanish Inquisition to discover and punish converted Jews—and later Muslims—who were insincere, they issued the Alhambra Decree, an edict ordering the expulsion of all Jews who refused to convert to Christianity. Any Jew who did not convert or leave by the deadline faced execution. Non-Jews found sheltering or hiding Jews had all of their belongings seized.
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« Reply #3207 on: March 31, 2024, 09:21:07 AM »
Even a small incendiary can be problematic if it hits the right spot, but it would need a lot of dry tinder to amount to much.  And yes, the US later dropped far more ordinance.

Our bombing raids would start with HE to scatter wood from houses and then incendiary to burn it, which worked.  More died in the Tokyo fire bombing than at Hiroshima.
I remember reading many of Mark Twain's books and he mentioned even in the 1800s wild fires were a thing out west. So perhaps IJF were aware of this and gave it a shot with little risk or provisions involved for a possible big favorable results.If they didn't know that then it was wishful yearning perhaps hoping for histeria or some such
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« Reply #3208 on: March 31, 2024, 09:29:23 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

The Alhambra Decree Is Issued (1492)
Fourteen years after Ferdinand II and Isabella I, the "Catholic Monarchs" of Spain, established the Spanish Inquisition to discover and punish converted Jews—and later Muslims—who were insincere, they issued the Alhambra Decree, an edict ordering the expulsion of all Jews who refused to convert to Christianity. Any Jew who did not convert or leave by the deadline faced execution. Non-Jews found sheltering or hiding Jews had all of their belongings seized.
Ya sounds like something Jesus preached ~???
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« Reply #3209 on: March 31, 2024, 09:57:23 AM »
A lot of the expelled Jews found homes in the Muslim empires of the day and brought with them considerable skills and learning.

The Ottomans in particular benefitted.

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« Reply #3210 on: March 31, 2024, 10:05:33 AM »

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« Reply #3211 on: March 31, 2024, 10:24:00 AM »
Truth is a stranger to the fiction Dept. A photo that set in motion a lot of problems for the couple. Johnny Cash was married to an African American woman in the 1950s.

They would say she was Italian ( which in itself could mean she has African blood, but suspected it was more than just that ) but the Klan down south gave them the side eye protesting him and his shows.

"That was a perilous time to be an interracial couple, so give props to them both."

Turns out the ” man in black “ was a true rebel and lived life on his terms, with respect! She ended up bowing out of the marriage ( after ten years and children, Roseanne Cash being one ), as the stress of it got to be too much for her. Even now in the movies, they don’t portray her as she was…



Saw a episode of “ who do you think you are” with Roseanne Cash. Turns out they did have a large amount of African ancestry, on both her mother and fathers side. 

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« Reply #3212 on: March 31, 2024, 10:48:25 AM »
Ya sounds like something Jesus preached ~???
or Hitler
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« Reply #3213 on: March 31, 2024, 11:04:47 AM »
In the longer term the Thompson was too expensive to import in sufficient numbers for the British, who designed their own sub-machine gun. The Sten (550 rpm) was crude and susceptible to fracture if dropped, but cheap and efficient. Over 4,000,000 were produced from 1942 and they also proved to be a key weapon for resistance fighters across Europe. A silencer-equipped version was also developed and used by commando and airborne forces. https://militaryhistoria.com/sten-smg/

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« Reply #3214 on: April 01, 2024, 04:58:29 AM »
One flight in 1970 costs the same as nearly 11 today.


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« Reply #3215 on: April 01, 2024, 09:32:21 AM »
adjusted for inflation?
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« Reply #3216 on: April 01, 2024, 09:42:39 AM »
Yes.  I recall my first trip from Raleigh to Pittsburg in 1980.  The ticket was in the many hundreds, in 1980 prices, maybe $600.  That would be over $2200 today.  I wasn't paying for it, it was a recruiting visit.  I looked up a flight from here to Orlando yesterday and it showed $137.

I recall gas when I started working in 1980 was $1.17 for self serve low lead off brand near where I worked.  I thought it was sky high.  That would be $4.33 today, and has prices around here are about $3.50.


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« Reply #3217 on: April 01, 2024, 10:00:05 AM »
yup, I started working at a gas station in 1980

gas was $1.17
dropped back to $1.14 a few days later

folks were up in arms because it had recently crossed the 99cents limit

truck driver delivering gas showed me bullet holes in his cab
I was instructed to give all the cash in the drawer if/when the station was held up

never happened

cigarettes were 60 cents a pack and cartons were $5.75
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« Reply #3218 on: April 01, 2024, 10:00:50 AM »
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« Reply #3219 on: April 01, 2024, 11:44:08 AM »


DEPRESSION ERA CHAMP

By the early 1930’s Braddock was a has-been. He had been a promising light-heavyweight contender in the 1920’s, but lost his only title shot, a decision to Tommy Loughran, in 1929. This precipitated a skid in which Braddock lost five times in six fights, but he had earned a fair share of purses and had invested for his future.
Like many of his countrymen, Braddock’s nest egg was wiped out by the Wall Street Crash of 1929. He continued to box, but a series of hand injuries hampered his effectiveness in the ring.
“He couldn’t beat anybody,” said Jeremy Schapp, author of the book on Braddock titled Cinderella Man: James J.Braddock, Max Baer, and the Greatest Upset in Boxing History).
He was reduced to fighting for peanuts in backwater venues, and by the time Braddock hung up his gloves and retired from the sport in despair he had won just four of his last eleven fights.
He managed to get longshoremen’s papers and went to work on the Jersey docks, but even there jobs were scarce. More often than not, he would arise early and trudge to the docks, only to return empty handed. With a wife and three children to feed, he increasingly despaired for his family.

Late in 1933 he put his pride aside and applied for a place on the county welfare rolls. At one point he and his wife, Mae, even had to farm their children out to their grandparents because he could no longer care for them.
During this dark period at least two remarkable things occurred. One was that time away from the ring gave his hands a chance to heal. The other was that his stint on the docks transformed Braddock from a 175 pounder into a much stronger, well muscled heavyweight.
Braddock had given no thought to a comeback, and hadn’t been near a gym in months, when his loyal friend and ever scuffling manager, Joe Gould, crossed the Hudson bearing news of an offer to fight again. Primo Carnera was scheduled to defend his title against Max Baer at the Madison Square Garden Bowl in Queens two nights later, and an up-and-coming heavyweight named Corn Griffin, whom the boxing powers hoped to groom for the big time, was slated to perform of the undercard, but his scheduled foe had fallen out.
Garden matchmaker Jimmy Johnston needed an Opponent - with a capital “O” - for Griffin, and Braddock could earn $250 for serving as canon fodder. Because he needed the money - Gould had wangled a $100 advance, which he split with Braddock, out of Johnston - he agreed.

On June 14, 1934, Braddock knocked out Griffin in three rounds.

Three fights and 364 days later James J. Braddock was the heavyweight champion of the world - “At a time when the heavyweight champion was, inarguably, the biggest man in sports,” noted Schapp.
Schapp reckons that Braddock’s “Cinderella” (It was Damon Runyon who bestowed the moniker on Braddock) tale lapsed into obscurity for at least two reasons: The first was that Braddock’s immediate heir was Joe Louis, whose own legend grew to such proportions that it quickly obscured that of his predecessor. And the other is that Braddock’s accomplishments took place in the bleakest period of 20th-century America: Once it was over, Americans wanted to put the Great Depression, and everything connected with it, behind them.
“But to me the ‘20’s and 30’s were a fascinating era for boxing,” said Schapp. “Far more interesting than the ‘40’s or ‘50’s or ‘60’s. The NFL was still in its infancy; the NBA didn’t exist. Baseball and horse racing were the only other games in town. Boxing champions were celebrities, and the heavyweight champion was the biggest celebrity of all.”

- George Kimball with Jeremy Schapp
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