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« Reply #2996 on: February 20, 2024, 09:38:23 PM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
The Barber of Seville's Disastrous Debut (1816)
In 1816, Italian composer Gioacchino Rossini produced The Barber of Seville, based on the comedy by French playwright Pierre Beaumarchais. Though Rossini created much of the opera's music in just weeks, it resounds with his brilliant arias, ensemble numbers, and famous crescendos. Still, several on-stage accidents and constant jeers from the audience, likely spurred by supporters of one of Rossini's rivals, made its debut in Rome a disaster.
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« Reply #2997 on: February 20, 2024, 10:57:32 PM »
John Candy's death was kinda weird as I remember it.. 

I heard he died of a heart attack, but it always seemed a little fishy.
I don't, he had been over weight for quite some time and still smoked and  of course drank.Think it was the Rolling Stone did a big article on him they had mentioned his dad died young also.But he was successful in business bought one of the CFL teams with Wayne Gretzky and they won the CFL Championships.  I was fan and use to watch Second City TV in the early '80s. He did a segment "Dining with LaRue" a smart ass Food Critic who tried to talk his way into restuarants for Dinner. That was pretty good,talked his way into a nice place and there was always salty exchanges between him and the help.Then he got small gigs then STRIPES I think was the 1st big break.


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« Reply #2998 on: February 21, 2024, 08:38:53 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

German Socialist Kurt Eisner Is Assassinated (1919)
Eisner was a German journalist and politician. From 1898, he was editor of Vorwärts, the official Social Democratic Party newspaper. He joined the Independent Social Democratic Party in 1917, later becoming its leader. In November 1918, he organized a Socialist revolution that overthrew the monarchy in Bavaria, and he became the first prime minister and minister of foreign affairs of the new Bavarian republic. In February 1919
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« Reply #2999 on: February 21, 2024, 09:14:17 AM »


Terrora Power Plant photo. Probably right after it was finished in 1925. The photo I have seen which has the sign "Terrora Development Georgia Railway & Power Co". Notice the difference between the new masonry & steel power plant and the wooded shed on the hill. See the pipes coming in behind the plant that carries water 1 mile through the mountain from Lake Rabun Dam to run the generators.


Badge will be pleased to note there is a move afoot to remove said dam which would restore Tallulah Falls to its roaring former granduer.  I doubt that happens though, lake front property being what it is.

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« Reply #3000 on: February 21, 2024, 10:39:59 AM »


USS California (BB-44), affectionately called the "Prune Barge" was the second Tennessee class Super Dreadnought built for the US Navy. She was the last battleship and only Dreadnought built on the West Coast of United States, fittingly, at Mare Island Naval Shipyard in California.

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« Reply #3001 on: February 22, 2024, 08:32:46 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

The "Miracle on Ice" (1980)
Voted the greatest sports moment of the 20th century by Sports Illustrated magazine, the unlikely victory of the US men's hockey team over its Soviet counterpart during the 1980 Olympic Winter Games has been called the "Miracle on Ice." The Soviet team was considered the world's best international hockey team, while the US team was made up of amateur and collegiate players.
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« Reply #3002 on: February 22, 2024, 08:41:34 AM »
Anarchist Catalonia

Anarchism, a political theory that favors the abolition of all forms of government, started a profound libertarian revolution throughout Spain. During the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s, Catalonia was established as an anarchist stronghold and much of the region's economy was put under worker control: factories were run through worker committees, agrarian areas became collectivized, and even hotels and restaurants were managed by their workers.
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« Reply #3003 on: February 22, 2024, 08:44:00 AM »
[img width=274.381 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/5xy6MmJ.png[/img]
USS California (BB-44), affectionately called the "Prune Barge" was the second Tennessee class Super Dreadnought built for the US Navy. She was the last battleship and only Dreadnought built on the West Coast of United States, fittingly, at Mare Island Naval Shipyard in California.
There was a guy in my hometown who was on this ship on the morning of December 7, 1941. He is the only Pearl Harbor survivor I ever knew personally.

He joined the Navy at 17 in 1941 and had only recently been sent to join the crew of the "Prune Barge" when it was sunk. He spoke to a service club I am in about the experience. After the sinking he swam through oil-covered water to Ford Island.

Next he was assigned to a Cruiser which was sunk at Coral Sea so in the first six months of the war he was sunk twice.

Postwar he ran a stone business in town for many decades. Funniest thing about him was that even as an 80ish year old, grandpa-looking guy he sounded like he was still in the Navy. I'm pretty sure the expression "swore like a sailor" was coined to describe him.

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« Reply #3004 on: February 22, 2024, 08:45:53 AM »
The Battle of the Coral Sea - ANZAC Day Commemoration Committee

The US didn't lose any cruisers at Coral Sea, he may have been talking about Guadalcanal, where we lost five in one night.

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« Reply #3005 on: February 22, 2024, 08:54:58 AM »
The Battle of the Coral Sea - ANZAC Day Commemoration Committee

The US didn't lose any cruisers at Coral Sea, he may have been talking about Guadalcanal, where we lost five in one night.
Sorry, you are right.

I knew it was in the South Pacific. 

At one point I found an article about it. Apparently a fairly substantial group of former USS California crewmen had all been assigned en-mass to this Cruiser so he was far from the only one. I wish I could remember the name of the Cruiser. 

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« Reply #3006 on: February 22, 2024, 08:56:13 AM »
Guadalcanal: Naval Battles (navy.mil)

This lists 7 major battles, with heavy losses, mostly by the US earlier on.  The Japanese were expert at night fighting and had superior optics.  The US largely threw away their advantage in radar, not understanding how it could help.

In the early morning of August 9, 1942, the Battle of Savo Island began.  A Japanese force had run through the Allied forces guarding Savo Sound.  As a result, one Australian heavy cruiser HMAS Canberra, and three American heavy cruisers, USS Quincy, USS Vincennes, and USS Astoria were sunk, along with damage to other Allied vessels.  As a result of the loss, the sound gained the nickname, "Iron Bottom Sound."  A day later, USS S-44 torpedoed and sank the Japanese cruiser Kako off Kavieng, New Ireland, as she was retiring from the battle.  The Japanese forces were commanded by Vice Admiral Gunichi Mikawa, and the Allied forces were commanded by Rear Admiral Victor Crutchley, RN, and Rear Admiral Richmond K. Turner, USN.   

Image:   NH 50346:   Battle of Savo Island, August 9, 1942:  USS Quincy (CA-39), photographed from Japanese cruiser during the battle.   U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command.   


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« Reply #3007 on: February 22, 2024, 11:20:28 AM »
Next he was assigned to a Cruiser which was sunk at Coral Sea so in the first six months of the war he was sunk twice.
Cindy's father - who I never knew was sunk twice in the N.Atlantic while serving in the Merchant Marine

Guadalcanal was brutal 7 months,sea,air,land - hats off to all of them
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« Reply #3008 on: February 22, 2024, 01:26:44 PM »


A Neolithic house in Skara Brae, Orkney Island, Scotland.
The village consisted of ten clustered houses, made of flagstones in earthen dams that provided support for the walls. The houses had stone hearths, beds, and cupboards. A primitive sewer system, with "toilets" and drains in each house, ended up in the ocean. Water was used to flush waste into a drain.
The site was occupied from roughly 3180 BC to about 2500 BC and is Europe's most complete Neolithic village. On average, each house measures 40 square metres and it seems likely that no more than 50 people lived in Skara Brae at any given time.



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« Reply #3009 on: February 22, 2024, 02:24:15 PM »
Cindy's father - who I never knew was sunk twice in the N.Atlantic while serving in the Merchant Marine

Guadalcanal was brutal 7 months,sea,air,land - hats off to all of them
Agreed.  

The oddest thing about it all is that through it all, the Japanese kept clinging to their "Decisive Battle" doctrine and waiting for the decisive naval battle which they thought would have to come eventually.  What they failed to realize was that the Guadalcanal campaign WAS the decisive battle.  Midway was important in that it SEVERELY curtailed the offensive punch of the IJN, but the decisive battle was Guadalcanal which turned into war by attrition which Japan couldn't hope to win against an enemy with 2x their population and 10x their industrial capacity.  The US simply bled the Japanese dry.  

After Pearl Harbor and the naval battles of 1942 there was something of a lull at least in terms of major fleet-vs-fleet naval battles and there wasn't another one until the Battle of the Philippine Sea in June of 1944.  In the battles of 1942 the IJN had been a worth adversary to the USN but by 1944 they were laughably outclassed.  They had lost many trained pilots and while the USN fliers took to the sky in brand new planes built AFTER the lessons of 1942, the IJN fliers took to the sky in the same planes they had started the war with 2-1/2 years earlier.  The battle was so lopsided that it has ever since been known as the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot.  

 

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