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medinabuckeye1

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2772 on: December 19, 2023, 12:47:46 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 19, 2023, 12:28:11 AM
two full days

Quote from: MrNubbz 12/10/2023, 2:25:40 PM
Churchill was ass for sending them,specially after the Imperial Japanese Navy just displayed in aces 3 days earlier what sea launched airpower was capable of. He couldn't bring himself to admit that Britania didn't rule the waves anymore.Japan had not only the biggest but most advanced NAVY afloat at the dawn of WWII

Thank you for admitting this mistake.

Your new argument that Churchill should have recalled Repulse and POW is an opinion. You are entitled to your opinion. 

Your previous statement was that he sent them after Pearl Harbor. That isn't an opinion it is a factually inaccurate statement. 

You could have avoided all of this by admitting your mistakes a long time ago.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2773 on: December 19, 2023, 01:02:57 AM »
You've just been upgraded to me feeling sorry for you.WHat are you babbling about now were you worked so silly you're now realizing hallucinations? You remind me of one of those Buckeye fans who keep embarrassing themselves OH-IO,OH-IO,OH-IO,
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2774 on: December 19, 2023, 01:03:51 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 19, 2023, 12:47:46 AM

You could have avoided all of this by admitting your mistakes a long time ago.
Are you really MrNubbz's exwife in disguise and we didnt know?
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2775 on: December 19, 2023, 01:20:56 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 19, 2023, 01:02:57 AM
You've just been upgraded to me feeling sorry for you.WHat are you babbling about now were you worked so silly you're now realizing hallucinations? You remind me of one of those Buckeye fans who keep embarrassing themselves OH-IO,OH-IO,OH-IO,
There is no need for this.

You made a simple mistake. I called you out on it, you argued for 8 days then finally admitted that you were wrong on the timeline and that you misstated your criticism as "sent them" when you meant "failed to call them back".

How did I get worked? YOU screwed up the timeline. YOU falsely claimed that Churchill sent Repulse and POW after Pearl Harbor.

Sounds like you got worked. 

Deal with it.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2776 on: December 19, 2023, 01:21:27 AM »
You have been carved up worse than the Christmas Goose - only he had more sense - get help. 

A Christmas Carol was published December 19, 1843 -  179 yrs ago
« Last Edit: December 19, 2023, 01:33:41 AM by MrNubbz »
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2777 on: December 19, 2023, 01:50:10 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 18, 2023, 11:42:56 PM
🔸The Ark Royal he was going to send along to Force Z got sunk in Scapa Flow November 14 by a German Sub
I was going to let this slide but you are being such an 🫏 that you don't deserve the courtesy. 

Ark Royal wasn't sunk in Scapa Flow. I don't feel like looking it up right now but I'm pretty sure it was sunk in the Mediterranean after one of the Malta runs. 

You are confusing Carrier Ark Royal with Battleship Royal Oak which was sunk at Scapa Flow two years earlier. 
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« Reply #2778 on: December 19, 2023, 01:52:12 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 19, 2023, 01:21:27 AM
You have been carved up worse than the Christmas Goose - only he had more sense - get help.

A Christmas Carol was published December 19, 1843 -  179 yrs ago
You got caught in multiple false statements and I've been carved up, to quote you:
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2779 on: December 19, 2023, 02:26:03 AM »

Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 19, 2023, 01:20:56 AM
How did I get worked? YOU screwed up the timeline. YOU falsely claimed that Churchill sent Repulse and POW after Pearl Harbor.
How in your morbid mindset to you confuse "sent"^^^^^from "calling back"vvvvv" they have completely different meanigs - don't put words in my mouth. Read it over,you can even move your lips or have it read to you or just leave me the hell alone like you should have done in the 1st place when I wasn't talking to you

Quote from: MrNubbz on December 18, 2023, 11:42:56 PM

Your misleading bullshit is the stuff of legend.
🔸The Ark Royal he was going to send along to Force Z got sunk in Scapa Flow November 14 by a German Sub
🔸The HMS Indomitable ran aground by Jamaica November 3 it went to Norfalk Va. for repairs and didn't even make it to the Sri Lanka until January'42
🔸The HMS Formidable didn't join the fleet until December 12
🔸The HMS Victorious  was conducting operations in the North Atlantic
CHurchill absolutely knew-KNEW the aircraft situation.And didn't bother calling Force Z back
So if you didn't know any of that then you are ignorant,if you did you're willing deceitful - what is it?



« Last Edit: December 19, 2023, 02:33:09 AM by MrNubbz »
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2780 on: December 19, 2023, 02:31:56 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 19, 2023, 01:50:10 AM
You are confusing Carrier Ark Royal with Battleship Royal Oak which was sunk at Scapa Flow two years earlier.
Yes on this I entirely concede I confused the two you were actually right - my mistake. Where it was sunk is irrelevant though it changes nothing as the Ark Royal was indeed sunk on November 14th and could not be sent for Air Cover in the South China Sea was the obvious point you look past. With the other Carriers sidelined also that left  Force Z with little cover when the hostilities hit the fan
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2781 on: December 19, 2023, 02:38:02 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 19, 2023, 02:26:03 AM
How in your morbid mindset to you confuse "sent"^^^^^from "calling back"vvvvv" they have completely different meanigs
Um . . .
This is exactly my point.

Originally you said sent:
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 10, 2023, 02:25:40 PM
Churchill was ass for sending them,specially after the Imperial Japanese Navy just displayed in aces 3 days earlier what sea launched airpower was capable of. He couldn't bring himself to admit that Britania didn't rule the waves anymore.Japan had not only the biggest but most advanced NAVY afloat at the dawn of WWII
Later you switched to didn't order them:

Quote from: MrNubbz 12/19/2023, 12:28:11 AM
Churchill knowingly KNOWINGLY - appraised of all of this about the same time as FDR. But make NO mistake it is of his making w/o aircover and enemy operations exploding all around the Pacific Rim and he still didn't order them with two full days to at least get out of range.And Force Z were too damn brave and honorable to ask.

The first statement of yours is false. The second is true.

As you yourself said "they have completely different meanigs".
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2782 on: December 19, 2023, 02:45:49 AM »
You have serious comprehension problems - are you cooking meth?.Seagulls have come out of Jet engines making more sense than that.Not false you can't see over the piles of shit you left Churchill sent them on there long journey.And after the massive attacks everywhere he still had two days to order them out to sea out of range  of Japanese Bombers - I can not make it any simpler.He pushed them off the Cliff and you're blaming the guys who didn't catch them at the bottom,SMDH
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2783 on: December 19, 2023, 03:00:41 AM »

Quote from: MrNubbz on December 10, 2023, 02:25:40 PM
Churchill was ass for sending them,specially after the Imperial Japanese Navy just displayed in aces 3 days earlier what sea launched airpower was capable of.
This is YOUR post. YOU state that Churchill sent them AFTER Pearl Harbor. 


This is plainly false. 

That and the 3 days thing were my objections from the beginning. 

You've conceded on both. My work here is done.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2784 on: December 19, 2023, 08:08:31 AM »
ya see what happens Larry?

Do you see what happens when the Buckeyes lose to Michigan 3 straight?

the Buckeyes start arguing with themselves! 
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #2785 on: December 19, 2023, 08:10:54 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
Original FIFA World Cup Trophy Is Stolen (1983)
The World Cup has been held every fourth year since 1930, except during WWII. The international soccer tournament's original prize was officially renamed the Jules Rimet Trophy in 1946 in honor of the former Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) president, who stipulated that the first team to win the World Cup three times could keep the trophy in perpetuity. Brazil earned this right in 1970, but, in 1983, the trophy was stolen while on display there.
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