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« Reply #2086 on: June 25, 2023, 08:03:47 AM »
well, no one wants to see the QB injured on defense or special teams, so more than 16 or 17 on the roster is a must

having an athletic QB and/or players at any position is a plus

traveling roster of 70 or 74 is maybe too many

if the roster size was 40, perhaps you'd see more players going two ways




























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« Reply #2087 on: June 25, 2023, 08:04:06 AM »
FACT OF THE DAY:

In 1916, there was a proposed Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would put all acts of war to a national vote. Anyone voting "yes" would have to register as a volunteer for service in the army. Provided by Huffington Post
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« Reply #2088 on: June 25, 2023, 08:09:04 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
Custer Dies at the Battle of the Little Bighorn (1876)
Popularly known as "Custer's Last Stand," the Battle of the Little Bighorn occurred during the US government's campaign to force the Cheyenne and Sioux onto reservations using federal troops. Upon encountering a large encampment of the tribes, General George Custer launched an early attack with a party of approximately 200 soldiers. The troops were annihilated by the vastly larger force, and Custer himself was killed during the battle along with two of his brothers.
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« Reply #2089 on: June 25, 2023, 08:24:26 AM »
For the 1964 season, rule changes allowed schools to return to two platoon football. When Coach Bob Devaney broke out his offensive and defensive squads, he wanted a way to tell them apart.  As the legend goes, assistant coach Mike Corgan was sent out to a local sporting goods store to get some new practice jerseys.  The store owner had some black jerseys that weren’t selling.  He cut Corgan a deal and the new jerseys were issued to the first string defenders.

Mike Kennedy was one of the very first Blackshirts, starting the first game after the practice jerseys debuted.  He went on to earn All-Big 8 honors as a linebacker the following year.


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« Reply #2090 on: June 26, 2023, 07:16:02 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The Pied Piper Abducts the Children of Hamelin (1284)
According to a centuries-old legend set in Hamelin, Germany, the Pied Piper was hired by local residents in 1284 to rid the town of rats, which he did by charming them with music and leading them to the river to drown. When the citizens refused to pay him the agreed upon price, he exacted his revenge by charming away their children. Famous versions of the legend were immortalized by Goethe, Robert Browning, and the Brothers Grimm.
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« Reply #2091 on: June 26, 2023, 11:12:14 AM »
Tom Brady was the best QB ever, but I think he'd obviously be a net negative at safety or LB. 
Come to think of it, if football remained 1-platoon, it would have hastened the athletic (largely black) QB becoming the norm.  Not necessarily with Warren Moon, but Randall Cunningham (plus he punted!) and maybe a Rodney Peete would have been serviceable on D.  McNair, Culpepper.....idk, imagine Montana or Marino trying to play defense, even f they grew up doing it.  Once you get to Vick, he'd be a plus on both sides of the ball (I assume).

It would have been interesting.
A couple of thoughts:
First, there has been a massive revolution in the athletic quality of big-time college football players. Back in 1964 I would guess that you'd be able to find random non-athlete guys on campus who could compete reasonably well with the football players. Today that is not the case AT ALL.

Specialization starts at a VERY young age and the workout programs are extreme.

The position most impacted by the above is obviously QB. The rest all have rough Offensive/Defensive equivalents:
  • O-line / D-line
  • Linebackers / O-line,  TE's, Backs (that is basically biggest/strongest to smallest/fastest
  • WR's / DB's
The biggest problem with the above is that the numbers don't quite work out but you could make it work, for example, by having your biggest linebacker play O-line and your biggest DB play linebacker or some such.

QB's are a different thing altogether. Brains, accuracy, and arm strength are the chief requirements for the position with athletic ability completely secondary in most cases.

I have no idea where a Brady/Montana/Marino would fit on an NFL defense. It seems like they'd be more likely to get in the way than to contribute meaningfully.

I think the suggestion above that you would see a lot more athletic QB's and option-type offenses is correct.

I think you'd HAVE to have an athletic QB because wasting 1/11 of your D would be too big of a liability. But that would mean that QB quality would decline so you would see teams run more and throw less.


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« Reply #2092 on: June 26, 2023, 10:06:00 PM »
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« Reply #2093 on: June 27, 2023, 07:10:02 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
Latter-Day Saints Founder Joseph Smith Murdered (1844)
Smith was the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints. He established his first church in New York but was forced to move his headquarters to Ohio, Missouri, and then Illinois. In 1844, he announced his candidacy for the presidency of the US, but he was imprisoned for treason after his efforts to silence Mormon dissenters led to mob violence. While in jail, Smith and his brother were murdered by a mob.
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« Reply #2094 on: June 27, 2023, 09:34:15 AM »

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« Reply #2095 on: June 27, 2023, 09:46:42 AM »
the babe had a large head
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« Reply #2096 on: June 27, 2023, 12:17:13 PM »
27 Jun 1941
  • Hungary declared war on the Soviet Union.(RUH-ROH)
  • British bombers attacked Bremen, Germany. 

Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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« Reply #2097 on: June 27, 2023, 12:52:53 PM »
One of the original State of Ohio maps.

May be an image of map and text
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« Reply #2098 on: June 27, 2023, 01:21:27 PM »
All Guts, No Glory for the Escort Carriers | Air & Space Magazine| Smithsonian Magazine
All Guts, No Glory for the Escort Carriers | Air & Space Magazine| Smithsonian Magazine


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« Reply #2099 on: June 27, 2023, 02:12:05 PM »
All Guts, No Glory for the Escort Carriers | Air & Space Magazine| Smithsonian Magazine
All Guts, No Glory for the Escort Carriers | Air & Space Magazine| Smithsonian Magazine
The gallows humor of those guys always amazes me. In that article one of the Escort Carrier crewmen stated that their CVE moniker stood for Combustible, Vulnerable, and Expendable. 

I used to work with a WWII Vet who drove an LST. LST stood for Landing Ship Tank and they were so named because they delivered tanks to the beach. He said, however, that it "really" stood for Large Stationary Target.

 

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