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« Reply #980 on: August 27, 2022, 09:44:50 AM »
Historically, guinea pigs have played a large role in the medicine in South America. Even in the Andes today (where Western medicine is either unavailable or distrusted), the guinea pig is believed to cure a number of illness, including arthritis and jaundice. Treatments include rubbing the guinea pig on the affected areas.
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« Reply #981 on: August 27, 2022, 10:48:18 AM »
I wouldn't like to be a guinea pig for those treatments....

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« Reply #982 on: August 27, 2022, 10:57:40 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

Kellogg-Briand Pact Signed (1928)
The Kellogg-Briand Pact was an agreement between the US and France to renounce war and seek settlement of disputes by peaceful means. It took its name from US Secretary of State Frank B. Kellogg and French foreign minister Aristide Briand. Sixty other nations ultimately ratified the pact, but it made no provision for measures against aggressors and proved ineffective, especially given the practice of waging undeclared wars in the 1930s.
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« Reply #983 on: August 27, 2022, 11:02:26 AM »
"They" should make war illegal, or tax it, or something ...

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« Reply #984 on: August 27, 2022, 11:29:52 AM »
Historically, guinea pigs have played a large role in the medicine in South America. Even in the Andes today (where Western medicine is either unavailable or distrusted), the guinea pig is believed to cure a number of illness, including arthritis and jaundice. Treatments include rubbing the guinea pig on the affected areas.
I thought they were a large role in cuisine down there.
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« Reply #985 on: August 27, 2022, 11:31:59 AM »


During World War II, fighter planes would come back from battle with bullet holes. The Allies initially sought to strengthen the most commonly damaged parts of the planes to increase combat survivability. A mathematician, Abraham Wald, pointed out that perhaps the reason certain areas of the planes weren’t covered in bullet holes was that planes that were shot in certain critical areas did not return. This insight led to the armor being reinforced on the parts of returning planes where there were no bullet holes. This wisdom was also beneficially applied to the Skyraider during the Korean War. This shows that the reasons why we are missing certain data may be more meaningful than the available data, itself. In questions of aircraft design, don’t only listen to what the evidence says, listen also to what is not being said.


I feel like this is where having a smartass around helps.  That useful tidbit would be noted, perhaps in a joking way, by a smartass just making a comment.  
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #986 on: August 27, 2022, 11:43:57 AM »
There are of course other plausible reasons for locations of bullet holes in a fighter or bomber.




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« Reply #987 on: August 27, 2022, 11:45:19 AM »

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #988 on: August 27, 2022, 11:50:32 AM »
I feel like this is where having a smartass around helps.  That useful tidbit would be noted, perhaps in a joking way, by a smartass just making a comment. 
The decision-maker, if listening, would say....."actually, you're right!"
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« Reply #989 on: August 28, 2022, 10:06:56 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
"I Have a Dream," Says Martin Luther King, Jr. (1963)
The 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom was one of the largest civil-rights demonstrations ever conducted in the US. More than 200,000 people heard civil-rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr., deliver his "I Have a Dream" speech, which is considered one of the finest speeches in the history of American oratory. However, his prepared text did not mention a dream—King composed that section on the spot, likely at the urging of gospel singer Mahalia Jackson.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #990 on: August 28, 2022, 11:19:47 AM »

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #991 on: August 28, 2022, 11:22:18 AM »
I read somewhere an analysis of how an army with longbows would do facing a Napoleonic era army with muskets.  It was bad for the musket side, but the longbow mastery requires much longer training than musket mastery.

Napoleon relied largely on conscripts with smoothbores marching in large blocks.  The British were often in a defensive posture in line and could fire about every 15 seconds.  They'd get close, maybe 60 yards, and aiming was not at issue, reloading quickly was.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #992 on: August 28, 2022, 12:35:31 PM »
Problem was many times their hot debris in the barrel so prolly less than that. Forget if it was Comanches or Apaches in the 1850s I believe that  attacked a group of guys with Muskets. In close they could easily get off twice as many shots,knocking their arrows much quicker than ramming home lead balls.Think it was  Texas Rangers who arrived in numbers driving off the war party
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #993 on: August 28, 2022, 12:40:09 PM »
Yeah, and they were using light bows with limited range.  A longbow is different.

The notion was a British line of infantry had to close inside 100 yards and by then a longbow equipped line would have torn them up starting at 250 yards.  You could loose 6-10 arrows per minute if you didn't run out.  Each arrow would have maybe a 5% chance of a hit, going up as they closed.  Math.

The other factor would be cannon.  Napoelonic tactics are interesting to study, I think.  Often it was just bludgeoning and who could stand their ground.  Napoleon was almost never on defense.  Wellington often fought a defensive battle and then struck when he thought it favorable.  His troops were of a very high value in general.

 

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