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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #714 on: May 31, 2022, 08:25:52 AM »
And in the Little Ice Age, we had the Maunder Minimum of sunspots.

And guess where we are today?  On the low side of normal.

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« Reply #715 on: May 31, 2022, 12:58:48 PM »
in 1940, the Vought F4U Corsair flew for the first time. In 1943, the Corsair and F6F Hellcat (AKA the "Terrible Twins") destroyed 5 enemy planes for every U.S. plane lost. This 1944 photo is of factory-fresh Corsairs and Hellcats being prepared to be shipped to the Pacific.
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This is what doomed the Japanese, they couldn't even begin to compete with US productivity.  

My great-aunt (Dad's dad's sister) helped build Corsairs at the Blimp Building in Akron, Ohio.  The Goodyear produced Corsairs were F4U-G with the "G" indicating that they were built by Goodyear rather than Vought.  

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #716 on: June 02, 2022, 01:39:25 PM »
156 years ago today in 1866, hardened Irish veterans from the American Civil War attack the Canadian province of Ontario in the Battle of Ridgeway.
Irish immigration to the United States increased greatly in the 19th century. During the largest political crisis in American history, the Irish immigrants showed loyalty to their home states and organized regiments for both sides in the upcoming War Between the States. After the war was over, many of these Irishmen reconnected with each other and were part of a secret society known as the Fenian Brotherhood. Since these men were now war veterans with military training, and in some cases still armed with military equipment, they decided to put it to use to aid their motherland.
The plan was to invade the nearby and lightly guarded British provinces in Canada to negotiate for Irish independence. British/Canadian authorities were alerted of the incoming invasion and hastily put together a militia to stop them. Due to the British government’s cozy relation with the Confederate States of America in the recent war. The U.S. authorities were slow and apathetic in helping the British stop the invasion. Although they would eventually intervene.
On the early morning of June 1st the Fenians began to cross the Niagara River in great numbers until U.S. authorities finally prevented them in the late afternoon. On June 2nd, a force of about 600 men that had crossed the border deployed skirmishers towards the village of Ridgeway. Deploying skirmishers was a common tactic during the American Civil War. A skirmisher line was used to provide reconnaissance and test the enemy’s position. The skirmishers were to engage the Canadian militia and lure them into the main Fenian force.
But these skirmishers were veterans of one of the largest exchanges in gunfire in history at that point. And when they came across the green Canadian militia of about 800 men. They pinned them down and caused panic. The main Irish force then charged with bayonets and sent the Canadians running allowing the Irish to briefly capture the village. The Fenian leaders quickly realized that their small force was in over their heads and retreated back into the United States.
The Battle of Ridgeway is considered Canada's first modern battle in the industrial era and the first fought exclusively by Canadian troops led by Canadian officers. There were 5 major Fenian raids over the next 5 years and all of them ended in failure. The raids would also be a catalyst for the confederation of Canada which occurred in 1867.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #717 on: June 02, 2022, 09:15:08 PM »
The "Bent Wing Bird" took its first flight #OTD May 29, 1940!

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« Reply #718 on: June 02, 2022, 09:34:56 PM »
This was May, 1970 on FB Gladiator. Mortared every day. Our Machine Gunner was wounded by one of those rounds. As I said earlier this was one ugly Firebase. Robert Henningsen adds: My squad was first 'on the hill' when Gladiator was re-opened, Spring '70. A 'daisy cutter' was first dropped on the hill and it looked like an atomic bomb plume from the jungle floor. WE were the only Grunts to 'make the top' by dusk and it was "a long night" of 100 % guard duty on the crest. No Gooks showed up and we were happy to see the rest of our 2cd platoon and the boys of Company C show up in the morning. Photo by Franklin Bass

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #719 on: June 02, 2022, 10:29:14 PM »
143 years ago today in 1879, Prince Imperial Napoléon IV, heir to the Bonaparte monarchy is killed during the Anglo-Zulu War.
Louis-Napoléon Bonaparte was born in Paris during the Second French Empire. His father Charles-Louis Napoléon Bonaparte was the nephew of Napoléon Bonaparte and seized power in 1852 anointing himself Emperor as Napoléon III. The Second French Empire under his leadership doubled the size of its overseas empire and repaired relations with Great Britain. However in July 1870 Napoléon III would enter into a war with Prussia with no allies and an inferior army. He would be captured in battle and Paris would abandon him declaring the Third Republic of France. The Bonaparte family would go into exile in England where the young Prince Imperial Napoléon IV would receive military training.
The young Prince was beloved and popular within political elite circles. He was a serious contender to marry one of Queen Victoria’s daughters, but the Prince first desired to experience military action. After applying great pressure he would get the opportunity to travel to South Africa and assist the British in their ongoing war with the Zulu people. He was attached to the staff of a Colonel in the Royal Engineers but the Prince’s eagerness for action found him volunteering to go along with reconnaissance missions as often as he could. Concerned for his safety, the British assigned personal guards to protect the young reckless Prince.
On the morning of June 1st the Prince insisted the reconnaissance mission planned for that day go earlier without full strength. The party dismounted and was resting in an abandoned Zulu village when suddenly 40 Zulu warriors ambushed them. The men escorting the Prince mounted their horses and did not attempt to fight, fleeing for their lives. Napoléon’s horse was spooked and began to run off before he could be fully mounted in the saddle. The Prince held onto a strap as the horse carried him to safety but the strap broke and the horse ran off with his carbine and a sword that belonged to Napoléon I.  His right arm was trampled and he pulled out a revolver with his left hand and began to run away, but four Zulu warriors rushed the Prince and one of their assegai was thrown through his leg. The Prince pulled the assegai from his leg and tried to fight with it using his trampled arm while shooting at the oncoming Zulus. He was overwhelmed and killed, and when his body was recovered it had 18 assegai wounds.
The Prince’s death sent shockwaves throughout England and France. He was only 23 years old and buried next to his father. His grieving mother made a pilgrimage to the location he was killed. And the best chance for a restoration of the Bonapartist Monarchy had died with him.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #720 on: June 05, 2022, 08:24:15 AM »
The autoimmune disease Systemic Lupus Erythmatosus (SLE), or lupus, literally means wolf redness, because in the eighteenth century, physicians believed the disease was caused by a wolf bite.
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« Reply #721 on: June 05, 2022, 09:09:35 AM »
She was The Model for the Statue of Liberty.
Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi's model for the Statue of Liberty, was the beautiful Frenchwoman Isabelle Boyer, who was fist married to the American industrialist Isaac Merrit Singer-of sewing machine fame- and later to the Duke of Campo Selice of Luxembourg.
In 1878, the 36-year-old Duchess de Campo Selice attracted the attention of the sculptor who forever immortalized her features in the face of Lady Liberty.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #722 on: June 06, 2022, 03:32:59 PM »
However in July 1870 Napoléon III would enter into a war with Prussia with no allies and an inferior army. 
Oops.  

I find the Franco-Prussian War to be fascinating.  When most present day people hear of a war between France and Germany they just immediately assume that Germany will of course win but at the time things were very different.  The "German" part of the war wasn't modern unified Germany but rather the "North German Confederation which was less populous than France.  Additionally, the Napoleonic Wars of the early nineteenth Century had only concluded about 55 years before.  For a modern comparison, 55 years ago today was 1967 or the height of the Vietnam War.  Thus there were still a LOT of veterans of the Napoleonic wars in the various countries of Europe and those wars were still very much in the public consciousness.  

I can't find a citation for it offhand but I've read that London's Newspapers were printing maps of "Probable French Invasion routes to Berlin" at the beginning of the war.  this is very interesting because Britain was neutral so these were not biased in favor of France.  If anything the British were more likely to be biased AGAINST France due to the history (Napoleonic Wars and prior) and the fact that France and decidedly NOT Germany was seen as Britain's chief rival.  

The results of the Franco-Prussian War were far-reaching and, to an extent, can still be felt today.  France was not just defeated but outright humiliated by the Germans and the victorious Bismark was able to leverage that into unification of nearly all German people under one nation for the first time in history.  The notable exception were those Germans living in Austria but the Austrian Germans ended up fighting on the same side as the rest of the Germans in WWI and birthing the man who would become fuhrer of a united (post Anschluss) Germany in WWII.  

Britain's long-time (literally centuries) rivalry with France cooled in the face of Germany as the new dominant power in Europe which led to Britain moving closer diplomatically to France and ultimately lead to Britain and France standing together in both World Wars of the Twentieth Century.  

France realized the need for allies in any potential conflict with the neighbor that was now stronger than they were which led to France dropping their conflicts with Russia (mostly dealing with Black Sea access) and cultivating improved relations with Germany's Eastern neighbor for mutual defense against potential German aggressions.  

Lessons from the war (some very wrong) were also important to later events.  Specifically, the end of the American Civil War had seen significant use of trench defensive fortifications and the horrors of static trench warfare began to be realized.  However the Franco-Prussian War was extremely short.  The whole thing only lasted barely over six months and for all practical purposes it was over with the surrender of Metz barely three months after the outbreak of hostilities.  Thus the power of the offensive was idolized and the lessons of the American Civil War were lost.  This led to literally thousands of unnecessary deaths in WWI as officers schooled in this belief in the offensive sent soldiers on hopeless headlong charges against entrenched defenders.  

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #723 on: June 11, 2022, 07:14:31 AM »
Some Protestants viewed the Gregorian calendar as a Catholic plot.

Though Pope Gregory’s papal bull reforming the calendar had no power beyond the Catholic Church, Catholic countries—including Spain, Portugal and Italy—swiftly adopted the new system for their civil affairs. European Protestants, however, largely rejected the change because of its ties to the papacy, fearing it was an attempt to silence their movement. It wasn’t until 1700 that Protestant Germany switched over, and England held out until 1752. Orthodox countries clung to the Julian calendar until even later, and their national churches have never embraced Gregory’s reforms.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #724 on: June 11, 2022, 07:16:18 AM »
The F-G war did have a considerable impact on the future, as you nicely note.  WW I had an impact on WW 2, as is more widely appreciated I think.

The Maginot Line was not really a failure, in my view, and Chamberlain was in a bad spot at Munich and had few options.  I can argue the ML expense would have been better applied to more tanks and planes, but without the strategy to go with same, meh.

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« Reply #725 on: June 11, 2022, 08:00:19 AM »
There were no women prisoners at Alcatraz. There were also no female guards or administrators.
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« Reply #726 on: June 11, 2022, 02:08:16 PM »
The Marquis de Lafayette arrived in South Carolina on June 13, 1777 to join the American Revolution. The French nobleman was nineteen years old and felt the fight for Liberty was linked to the happiness of all mankind. He bought a ship and sailed over.
George Washington and the young military man forged a long lasting friendship. Lafayette would name is son after George Washington in future years. In 1778 after being appointed a Major General, and serving as George Washington's aide-de-camp, taking part in the Battle of Brandywine, spending the winter at Valley Forge, he went back to France where he successfully persuaded the French to assist American forces. In 1780, Marquis de Lafayette returned to America and served in the Virginia campaign, which led to the surrender of Lord Charles Cornwallis in 1781.


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