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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #504 on: February 28, 2022, 12:37:02 PM »
Boomers, those things are scary aren't they? 
I don't have a source for this offhand but I remember reading that just one of the missiles aboard those has more firepower than all of the bombs that have ever been dropped in all of the wars that have ever been fought including the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs.  

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« Reply #505 on: February 28, 2022, 12:39:42 PM »
The new boomers with Trident missiles can carry up to ten warheads, each of which would be 10-15x more powerful than Hiroshima's A bomb.

The Ohio Class carries 24 of those, with a 7,000 nm range.  If they ever are used, the next war will be fought with rocks and sticks.

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« Reply #506 on: February 28, 2022, 12:48:44 PM »
Suburbia:Where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them.

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« Reply #507 on: February 28, 2022, 04:59:46 PM »
The American concept of impeachment has its origins in Ancient Rome. Only senators could be impeached, but not the emperor. This lead to a number of assassinations—a potentially bloody situation the Founding Fathers hoped to avoid.
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« Reply #509 on: February 28, 2022, 06:41:34 PM »
Meet the General Belgrano: The Only Ship Ever Sunk by a Nuclear Submarine | The National Interest
I remember at the time that there was a lot of pushback over this as some military experts thought it was not necessary

to sink that ship because it posed no threat
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« Reply #510 on: February 28, 2022, 08:36:51 PM »
it was a live target
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« Reply #511 on: March 01, 2022, 12:04:56 AM »

That is one expensive egg carton.  
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« Reply #512 on: March 01, 2022, 09:21:12 AM »
The current boomers of course are far more expensive, and deadly.  If they ever were used ....

We have ten Ohio Class submarines with enormous destructive power, one of them has more than most nuclear nations.  The Russians of course have their rough equivalents, probably not as quiet and with a more restricted patrol area.  One idea they had was to keep them under the Arctic ice cap and they surface to fire.

I don't know what kind of shape they are in today.

A full nuclear exchange could possibly eradicate nearly all of humanity.

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« Reply #513 on: March 01, 2022, 09:40:33 AM »
At least we captured the Red October when that Scottish Russian(?) guy defected.

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« Reply #514 on: March 01, 2022, 09:43:23 AM »
I was musing about that movie last night, and the book, which is far far better and more realilstic.  Clancy was so mad about how they messed up his books, he managed to prevent anyone from making any more movies from his books after the three they made.  The movies were decent on their on, but if you read the books ....



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« Reply #515 on: March 01, 2022, 10:18:34 AM »
I was musing about that movie last night, and the book, which is far far better and more realilstic.  Clancy was so mad about how they messed up his books, he managed to prevent anyone from making any more movies from his books after the three they made.  The movies were decent on their on, but if you read the books ....



Ive read every one and still marvel at how much research he did
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« Reply #516 on: March 01, 2022, 06:14:38 PM »
On This Day in History > March 1, 1781:
The Articles of Confederation are ratified after nearly four years

"On March 1, 1781, the Articles of Confederation are finally ratified. The Articles were signed by Congress and sent to the individual states for ratification on November 15, 1777, after 16 months of debate. Bickering over land claims between Virginia and Maryland delayed final ratification for almost four more years. Maryland finally approved the Articles on March 1, 1781, affirming the Articles as the outline of the official government of the United States. The nation was guided by the Articles of Confederation until the implementation of the current U.S. Constitution in 1789.
The critical distinction between the Articles of Confederation and the U.S. Constitution —the primacy of the states under the Articles—is best understood by comparing the following lines.
The Articles of Confederation begin:
“To all to whom these Present shall come, we the undersigned Delegates of the States”
By contrast, the Constitution begins:
“We the People of the United States ... do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
The predominance of the states under the Articles of Confederation is made even more explicit by the claims of Article II:
“Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”
Less than five years after the ratification of the Articles of Confederation, enough leading Americans decided that the system was inadequate to the task of governance that they peacefully overthrew their second government in just over 20 years. The difference between a collection of sovereign states forming a confederation and a federal government created by a sovereign people lay at the heart of debate as the new American people decided what form their government would take.
Between 1776 and 1787, Americans went from living under a sovereign king, to living in sovereign states, to becoming a sovereign people. That transformation defined the American Revolution."


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #517 on: March 02, 2022, 08:03:45 AM »
126 years ago today in 1896, Ethiopians led by their Emperor shock the modernizing world by defeating a modern Italian army in the Battle of Adwa during the First Italo-Ethiopian War.
Towards the end of the 1800’s, Italy became a unified Kingdom for the first time in centuries. The new kingdom was eager for expansion and colonies to match their rivals. For centuries the Horn of Africa was under the hegemony of Egypt, however in 1884 Egypt collapsed and a power vacuum occurred in the region. The Kingdom of Italy jumped on the opportunity and sent troops to the region and skirmished with the Ethiopians for years until the British intervened to mediate between both sides.
Tensions began to arise again in 1894 as Ethiopians grew tired of their Italian neighbors. Many of the tribes united around Emperor Menelik II who was putting his efforts to unite the Ethiopian provinces against the Italian colonizers. By 1895 a full blown conflict broke out and the Italians began achieving victories and pushing further into rebellious Ethiopian territory. Their early successes would make them feel like the Ethiopians were a push over opponent. But by late 1895 both sides were stalemated and supplies were running low for both armies. The Italian governor of their territory Oreste Baratieri was pressured by the Italian government to attack Emperor Menelik’s massive 100,000+ force that was poorly supplied.
On the late night of February 29th and early morning of March 1st, 17,000 Italians moved towards the city of Adwa where Menelik’s army was camped. The Ethiopians were alerted of the Italian advance and deployed their army. The Ethiopians had plenty of outdated firearms, as well as some modern Russian artillery and rifles that came with a group of Russian advisers helping them against the Italians. After both armies fought hard for several hours, the Ethiopians would utilize their massive numbers and send in their reserves that outnumbered the Italian army. The Italians would be overran and the battle is famous for two of their generals being killed in attempts to hopelessly rally their routing forces.
The defeat at Adwa shocked Italy and the Kingdom would desire revenge of the embarrassing defeat for decades to follow. With Italian Nationalism revitalized by dictator Benito Mussolini in the 20th century,  Italy would return in 1935 with airplanes and tanks to crush the Ethiopians with impunity while the rest of the world watched before World War 2. However the Victory at Adwa in 1896 remains a public holiday and is one of the most celebrated events in Ethiopian history.
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