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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #406 on: February 13, 2022, 12:49:53 PM »
B-29 had all sorts of maintenance/mechanical problems also.Makes me wonder how many runs they really made at Hiroshima/Nagasaki. Would not be shocked if some of them splashed
we only had two bombs at the time, so no.  A third was being completed.

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« Reply #407 on: February 13, 2022, 01:10:43 PM »
Oops, I see you already shared that

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #408 on: February 14, 2022, 04:05:56 PM »
The 1967 Corvette Sting Ray Was One of the World's Best Cars (roadandtrack.com)
The 1967 Corvette Sting Ray Was One of the World's Best Cars (roadandtrack.com)

Quality of assembly is lacking, how­ever, and the following items were amiss on our test car: sev­eral rattles; improper clutch adjustment; an air leak over the windshield; choke setting; sticky throttle linkage; and a fresh-air vent that wouldn’t shut off.

Such deficiencies in a modern car would be unheard of, I think.

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« Reply #409 on: February 14, 2022, 04:27:34 PM »
Tom Brady played until he was 44.  Satchel Paige almost played at 60.  September 25, 1965: At age 59, Satchel Paige relaxes in a rocking chair in the bullpen, preparing for the final game of his career by having a nurse rub liniment on his pitching arm. Satchel would go on to toss 3 scoreless innings in his final appearance.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #410 on: February 15, 2022, 09:53:08 AM »
Game Changer: The 1949 Oldsmobile Rocket V-8 | Mac's Motor City Garage (macsmotorcitygarage.com)
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« Reply #411 on: February 15, 2022, 09:55:41 AM »
I once had a boss that collected the Rockets

pretty cool
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #412 on: February 16, 2022, 07:41:58 AM »
Remember the Maine!
☞Today in History - On today’s date 124 years ago, Tuesday, February 15, 1898, a tremendous explosion of unknown origin sank the battleship U.S.S. Maine in the harbor of Havana, Cuba, killing 266 of the 354 crew members -- eventually leading to a naval blockade of Cuba, & to the declaration of the 1898 Spanish-American War.
☞The sinking of the Maine incited United States citizens’ passions against Spain, & the rallying cry “Remember the Maine -- To Hell with Spain!” was heard throughout the land.
☞On April 20, 1898, U.S. President William McKinley (1843-1901) signed a resolution demanding that Spain withdraw from Cuba. In response, Spain broke off diplomatic relations with the United States on April 21. On the same day, the U.S. Navy began a blockade of Cuba. Spain declared war on April 23. On April 25, Congress declared that a state of war between the U.S. & Spain had existed since April 21, the day that the U.S. blockade of Cuba had begun.
☞Lyrics from the 1898 song “Remember the Maine.”
From North & South & East & West,
From city, farm, & plain,
Loud comes a cry will never rest,
For vengeance unto Spain.
☞The most popular song during the time of the Spanish American War was
“There’ll be a Hot Time in the Old Town To-night,” a Ragtime song composed in 1896, with music by Theodore August “Ted” Metz (1848-1936) & lyrics by Joe Hayden. Hot Time in the Old Town became the official adopted theme song of Teddy Roosevelt’s Rough Riders.
☞In the 1919 book “The Story of Our National Ballads,” author C. A. Browne states that: “The witchery of this tune was such, that during our brief war with Spain, the Spaniards in Cuba were quite convinced that our National Anthem was named There’ll be a Hot Time in the Old Town To-night. At all events, the frolicsome tones of this unpretentious popular song are the most intimately associated of any, with the already dimming recollections of that whirlwind campaign.”


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #413 on: February 16, 2022, 09:21:52 AM »
The first Tour de France in 1903


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #414 on: February 16, 2022, 10:03:40 AM »
Remember the Maine!
The Spanish-American War is largely forgotten by most modern Americans.  I remember my dad telling me that when he was a boy (1940's) his family rented a cabin for a few weeks each summer on Lake Erie and the owner of the Cabin was a Spanish American War Veteran.  

Part of the reason that the war is so easily forgotten is that it was a ridiculous mismatch so it only lasted a few months.  However, it had far-reaching consequences.  When War was declared the Spanish Empire was still seen as one of Europe's and the World's major powers but Spain had been in decline for generations.  Meanwhile the US was seen as somewhat of an upstart power.  Realistically though the US had the World's Largest Economy and Spain was no match.  

In 10 weeks the US destroyed two Spanish Fleets (one in the Pacific, one in the Atlantic) and captured multiple Spanish Colonial possessions.  The Spanish sued for peace and the US acquired Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines.  

The War was essentially America's announcement to the World that we were a major power (and that Spain was not).  It had far-reaching consequences because the whole reason that Japan felt they needed to destroy the American Fleet in 1941 was that the resources they desired were South of the Philippines which meant that they would have to transport said resources past the US controlled Philippines.  They felt that they couldn't secure those supply lines without capturing the Philippines.  

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« Reply #415 on: February 16, 2022, 10:46:20 AM »
Some background on the above regarding Spain and the US heading into the Spanish-American War:

Spain:
The Iberian Peninsula was almost fully occupied by the Muslims at one point and parts of it were held by the Muslims for nearly 800 years from the Umayyad Caliphate's landing at Gibraltar in 711 to Ferdinand and Isabella's unification of Spain and eviction of the last Muslims in 1492.  After that, of course, the Spanish crown financed Columbus' voyage and they ended up with substantial colonial possessions in the Western Hemisphere and the Pacific in large part simply because they had something of a "first mover" advantage over the other European nations.  Those colonial possessions brought substantial wealth to Spain in the form of gold and trade with their colonies and that made Spain a (if not "the") world power for a time.  

Later, however, as the UK, France, Germany, and the United States Industrialized the Spanish failed to keep up.  According to Wiki, by 1900 the World's largest Economies were:

  • US
  • China (not wealthy or industrialized, just enormously populous)
  • UK
  • India (same as China)
  • Germany
  • Russia (same as China/India although to a lesser extent)
  • France
  • Italy
  • Japan
  • Poland
  • Spain
Spain had been a major world power four about 400 years and they were still seen as one even though they didn't realistically have the economy to back it up.  

The US:
The US Economy surpassed the UK sometime in the 1870's and passed China and India to become the world's largest at about the same time.  However, at first the US wasn't actually as wealthy or industrialized as the UK.  Instead, the US was close in wealth/industrialization and much larger in population.  Based on economy the US should have been treated as a major power by no later than the 1870's but they weren't partially simply due to inertia.  Global leaders and diplomats simply didn't think of the US as a major power because the US hadn't been one.  

Additionally, not long before becoming the world's largest economy the US had fought a devastating Civil War.  This generally left the US in no mood for imperialistic adventurism.  Finally, the US was naturally isolated from the conflicts of the other major powers because they were all in Europe.  

The first major power that the US bumped up against was Spain simply because Cuba is 90 mi from Key West and the US Navy had a large presence in Key West even then.  


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #416 on: February 16, 2022, 10:50:58 AM »
The Phillippine Insurrection which followed caused 4,400 US deaths of soldiers and Marines, fighting against mostly Muslim insurgents in an unpopular war in far off territory, also largely forgotten.

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« Reply #417 on: February 16, 2022, 11:54:07 AM »
The Phillippine Insurrection which followed caused 4,400 US deaths of soldiers and Marines, fighting against mostly Muslim insurgents in an unpopular war in far off territory, also largely forgotten.
Also the reason for the US switch to the M1911 .45 Caliber pistol.  Initially in the Philippines US soldiers with sidearms were carrying .38's but they discovered that a .38 just doesn't have enough stopping power.  A suicidal fanatic can absorb at least one and sometimes more than one .38 rounds and STILL keep charging.  The .45 fixed that problem.  

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #418 on: February 16, 2022, 06:53:00 PM »

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