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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2022, 12:45:12 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 30, 2022, 09:00:41 AM
One fellow somewhat forgotten in US histories is Charles Martel.  Had it not been for him, we might all be Muslims today.

Battle of Tours | Facts, History, & Importance | Britannica
Battle of Tours | Facts, History, & Importance | Britannica

Charles had a grandson is is far better known than he is.  Spain was totally recovered in 1492, a year more known for another event.  There later was a significant battle for Vienna that may have led to the croissant, or not. 
Some disagree but I believe that the Battle of Tours is the most consequential Battle in human history. 
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2022, 01:25:49 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on January 30, 2022, 12:45:12 PM
Some disagree but I believe that the Battle of Tours is the most consequential Battle in human history.
It certainly is one of, if not the.  
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2022, 01:34:23 PM »
Wow, you guys really hate Islam.

To me, it's just a newer poisonous, oppressive, invented, murderous, silly religion than the one that defeated the Umayyad that day(s).
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2022, 01:38:50 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 30, 2022, 01:34:23 PM
Wow, you guys really hate Islam.

To me, it's just a newer poisonous, oppressive, invented, murderous, silly religion than the one that defeated the Umayyad that day(s).
Where here did anyone express hatred of Islam?  
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2022, 01:39:03 PM »
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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2022, 01:39:50 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 30, 2022, 01:38:50 PM
Where here did anyone express hatred of Islam? 
Why else would that battle be so important in your eyes?  Your hatred of sandals?
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2022, 01:40:52 PM »
It was obviously a major historic turning point, it has nothing to do with hatred to note that fact.

Nobody here expressed anything remotely like hatred of Islam, well, except for you.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2022, 01:43:52 PM »
I find Charles Martel interesting because of his influence on the course of history coupled with the fact I don't recall any of this being taught in history class, I could well have missed it.  I do recall some stuff about the Holy Roman Empire from history classes, along with the pithy quote about it.

I personally think it important to have some knowledge of pivotal moments and events in history.  This battle was one of them, simple as that.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2022, 02:18:22 PM »
As of 2018, the Haber process produces 230 million tonnes of anhydrous ammonia per year.[48] The ammonia is used mainly as a nitrogen fertilizer as ammonia itself, in the form of ammonium nitrate, and as urea. The Haber process consumes 3–5% of the world's natural-gas production (around 1–2% of the world's energy supply).[4][49][50][51] In combination with advances in breeding, herbicides and pesticides, these fertilizers have helped to increase the productivity of agricultural land:
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With average crop yields remaining at the 1900 level[,] the crop harvest in the year 2000 would have required nearly four times more land[,] and the cultivated area would have claimed nearly half of all ice-free continents, rather than under 15% of the total land area that is required today.[52]
The energy-intensivity of the process contributes to climate change and other environmental problems:
Since nitrogen use efficiency is typically less than 50%,[54] farm runoff from heavy use of fixed industrial nitrogen disrupts biological habitats.[4][55]
Nearly 50% of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated from the Haber–Bosch process.[56] Thus, the Haber process serves as the "detonator of the population explosion", enabling the global population to increase from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 7.7 billion by November 2018.[57]


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2022, 03:55:49 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 30, 2022, 01:40:52 PM
It was obviously a major historic turning point, it has nothing to do with hatred to note that fact.

Nobody here expressed anything remotely like hatred of Islam, well, except for you.
You get that it was a joke, right?
What would have been the "bad" outcome if that battle had turned out differently?
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2022, 04:43:54 PM »
A joke or a poor effort to backtrack?
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2022, 06:06:40 PM »
lol, backtrack what???

The joke was that the suggestion of the war going the other way would end in islam spreading to the western world instead of christianity and my failing to see the big difference.

Your suggesting it was a huge deal suggests you think all of you guys being muslim is worse than being christian.

Explaining this out is a waste of time, but for you, necessary.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #110 on: January 30, 2022, 06:45:43 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 30, 2022, 06:06:40 PM
lol, backtrack what???

The joke was that the suggestion of the war going the other way would end in islam spreading to the western world instead of christianity and my failing to see the big difference.

Your suggesting it was a huge deal suggests you think all of you guys being muslim is worse than being christian.

Explaining this out is a waste of time, but for you, necessary.
only you would have come up with that point of view
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2022, 07:08:17 PM »
Oh, then I must be wrong.





LOL
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