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TyphonInc

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #210 on: May 03, 2018, 03:17:39 PM »
Absolutely.

Heck, the popularity of BBQ in the southern part of the country is one direct result of the need to perform a lot of cooking OUTDOORS, to avoid heating up the interior of the home.  That, and slow-smoking was a good method of rendering really cheap, undesirable cuts of meat, as edible.

Now of course, its popularity has resulted in some of those cuts being just as expensive as steak, but what are you gonna do?  Skirt steak is another example of that, I used to buy it for $.79/lb.  Now it can run anywhere from $4-$8/lb.  I blame Chili's for the increased national popularity of fajita tacos. (no really, I do)

(incidentally, there's no such thing as shrimp fajitas or chicken fajitas or even sirloin steak fajitas, since the word "fajita" refers specifically to the cut of meat, which is the inside skirt.  All of those other things are simply tacos al carbon de pollo, or tacos al carbon de camarones, etc.)
TIL: Faja in Spanish means "belt", and -ita is a suffix meaning small or cute. So Fajita's meaning started as the small belt of meat around the cow or specifically the skirt cut (There are 4, 2 inside and 2 outside, either cut was servicable.) 
I always thought Fajita was a reference to the seasoning. When we have Mexican night in our household, I would add Taco Seasoning to meat being used in Tacos, and Fajita seasoning to the meat I wanted to use on ... Fajitas.

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #211 on: May 03, 2018, 03:25:50 PM »

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #212 on: May 03, 2018, 03:57:40 PM »
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #213 on: May 03, 2018, 04:04:53 PM »
Dell, AMD, and several other Texas-based companies have large operations in China, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if there are some ex-pats over there cooking BBQ.

Believe it or not, I once even had good Texas-style smoked brisket in the Bay Area.  Don't remember the name of the place,  but some of the California locals I worked with at AMD took me over there to try it one time, because they wanted to prove it could be done.  They were right. :)

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #214 on: May 03, 2018, 04:09:10 PM »
TIL: Faja in Spanish means "belt", and -ita is a suffix meaning small or cute. So Fajita's meaning started as the small belt of meat around the cow or specifically the skirt cut (There are 4, 2 inside and 2 outside, either cut was servicable.)
I always thought Fajita was a reference to the seasoning. When we have Mexican night in our household, I would add Taco Seasoning to meat being used in Tacos, and Fajita seasoning to the meat I wanted to use on ... Fajitas.
Inside skirt was the traditional cut used.  Outside skirt in later years as it became more popular and they needed more meat to satisfy the growing demand.  And yes, that's why "fajita" specifically refers to the cut of meat and not the seasoning, or simply "taco on a flour tortilla" as people now tend to use it in generic form.
If you're adding "fajita seasoning" to chicken, then grilling the chicken, and putting that meat into a tortilla, you're making tacos al carbon de pollo.  Which are great, and common all through Mexico and the Southwest.  But they're not fajitas.  

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #215 on: May 03, 2018, 04:25:01 PM »
Yeah, it's more chicken/pork. That's changing somewhat as the country gets richer.
Didn't you reference pho above? Pho has a bunch of fish sauce in it...
But other than that, I'd say try cooking that Hunan Cumin Spare Rib recipe I posted. Not a bit of fish sauce taste in there at all. There's soy sauce in the marinade, but the spice rub is what really drives the flavor.
Sometimes, yes, but only as a condiment. It is not incorporated into the broth itself. The broth is made using chicken bones, meat and organs, along with charred onion and ginger, star anise, coriander seed and clove. If I'm doing beef pho, I'll use beef bones and meat. Never bring to a boil. It makes the broth cloudy, which you don't want.

That is how I make it, which came to me from a friend who obtained it on a trip to Vietnam. It's good.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #216 on: May 03, 2018, 04:32:15 PM »
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #217 on: May 03, 2018, 04:53:24 PM »
Sometimes, yes, but only as a condiment. It is not incorporated into the broth itself. The broth is made using chicken bones, meat and organs, along with charred onion and ginger, star anise, coriander seed and clove. If I'm doing beef pho, I'll use beef bones and meat. Never bring to a boil. It makes the broth cloudy, which you don't want.

That is how I make it, which came to me from a friend who obtained it on a trip to Vietnam. It's good.
Yeah, I don't use fish sauce in pho broth, nor have I ever seen it used as a condiment.  I make it using the same ingredients that badger listed.

Now for Vietnamese vermicelli bowls-- bun-- fish sauce is a primary ingredient in the sauce that is usually poured over the noodle bowl just prior to eating.  And I find it tasty but I can definitely understand people not liking it.  

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #218 on: May 03, 2018, 05:46:53 PM »
I know you're not a carb guy Badge, but some of my favorite uses of CC is for things like toast, grilled pita/naan, rice, chicken and vegetables.  and, of course your other favorite, eggs. 

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #219 on: May 03, 2018, 05:58:16 PM »
I could probably get an egg down with that stuff on it.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #220 on: May 03, 2018, 07:35:59 PM »

Sometimes, yes, but only as a condiment. It is not incorporated into the broth itself. The broth is made using chicken bones, meat and organs, along with charred onion and ginger, star anise, coriander seed and clove. If I'm doing beef pho, I'll use beef bones and meat. Never bring to a boil. It makes the broth cloudy, which you don't want.

That is how I make it, which came to me from a friend who obtained it on a trip to Vietnam. It's good.
I have always made my Pho broth based on the Serious Eats recipe: https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/09/traditional-beef-pho-recipe.html
Calls for 1/4 cup of fish sauce, and then more to taste. I find it always requires more to get it to the right level.
I've never seen fish sauce as a condiment for pho. Sriracha and sometimes hoisin, but not fish sauce.

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #221 on: May 03, 2018, 07:52:24 PM »
My favorite place in Long Beach doesn't put it in the broth, but keeps in on the tables.

https://www.menuism.com/restaurants/pho-hong-phat-long-beach-408465

I never add it. There is a place for fish sauce in cooking, and I keep it on hand for some recipes.

It's just not a Pho thing. It changes flavors easily, and with good Pho, why would you want to do that?

Anyway, if anyone is ever in that area, it's a must try. They are open for breakfast too, which is when I like to eat my Pho. No eggs.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #222 on: May 03, 2018, 08:09:41 PM »
Killer pho and Vietnamese to be had in Columbus IN.   Houston may claim most SE Asian immigrants but Midwest has a lot of pockets including the more well known Columbus OH.

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #223 on: May 03, 2018, 08:21:11 PM »
My favorite place in Long Beach doesn't put it in the broth, but keeps in on the tables.

https://www.menuism.com/restaurants/pho-hong-phat-long-beach-408465
I might have to give that a shot. We've got a lot of friends in Long Beach. My wife has a poultry allergy, which shouldn't be an issue for beef pho, but we're always a little bit leery. We went to one place and asked about it, and they swore they didn't put any chicken product in the beef pho, but then they revealed that they sometimes have a problem with the cooks using the same serving ladles for chicken pho as beef pho, so that was out. That's why I usually make it at home.

 

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