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« Reply #196 on: March 05, 2024, 09:41:59 AM »
Just like it's the Cleveland India......oh wait a second.
Its Indiana not NativeAmericana
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Re: OT - Underappreciated Movies
« Reply #197 on: March 05, 2024, 09:53:53 AM »
Theres overs 4 million Indian Americans in the US

Just how and when did they vote to decide what they want to be called?

Show me the source of that decision.

Its the Atlanta  Braves not the Atlanta Native Americans
OK, I can admit sometimes I can come across as an arrogant know it all, so I apologize for these next couple of comments

Well, see there is also this country that exists that we like to call India, whose immigrants would also like to lay claim to the Indian American name.

If you are going to give a name to a people,  it might help if you do not mistake them for people from half way around the world.

OK now that out of the way,  I have to admit the Cleveland Guardians and Washington Commanders names have grown on me.  Neither one was my favorite choice when the made the name change,  but part the process is just getting used to the name that they chose. 
Washington especially seems to be slow itself to embrace its new name.  Putting a generic W on its helmet for now.  But I have a hunch it could all be part of a long term marketing strategy.  Give fans about 5-10 years to get used to the new name,  then change the team colors to look more like a Naval Commander Uniform and change the helmet to a classic Navy ship or something like that. I could be wrong.  We will see.

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« Reply #198 on: March 05, 2024, 10:12:45 AM »
how did the country India get it's name

from the British?
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« Reply #199 on: March 05, 2024, 10:29:59 AM »
The name "India" is originally derived from the name of the river Sindhu (Indus River) and has been in use in Greek since Herodotus (5th century BCE). The term appeared in Old English as early as the 9th century and reemerged in Modern English in the 17th century. "Hindūstān" is a third name for the Republic of India.

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« Reply #200 on: March 05, 2024, 10:30:26 AM »

  • The term “India” made its way into Old English as early as the 9th century. During this period, it referred to the vast landmass beyond the Indus River.
  • In Modern English, the term “India” reemerged in the 17th century. It became synonymous with the subcontinent that includes present-day India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.


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« Reply #201 on: March 05, 2024, 10:31:17 AM »
The river's conventional name derives from the Tibetan and Sanskrit name Sindhu. The earliest chronicles and hymns of the Indo-European-speaking peoples of ancient India, the Rigveda, composed about 1500 bce, mention the river, which is the source of the country's name.

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« Reply #202 on: March 05, 2024, 11:02:14 AM »
"Indians" is just easier to say, and most folks now what you mean in context.  I make some effort to use the term preferred by some group, but I personally don't care.
Yeah. That's called respect. 

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« Reply #203 on: March 05, 2024, 11:08:05 AM »
I don't overly like being called "white" and I don't have any particular affinity to Angles, Saxons, or the Caucasus mountains.

Yet here we are.

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« Reply #204 on: March 05, 2024, 11:16:34 AM »
OK, I can admit sometimes I can come across as an arrogant know it all, so I apologize for these next couple of comments

Well, see there is also this country that exists that we like to call India, whose immigrants would also like to lay claim to the Indian American name.

If you are going to give a name to a people,  it might help if you do not mistake them for people from half way around the world.

OK now that out of the way,  I have to admit the Cleveland Guardians and Washington Commanders names have grown on me.  Neither one was my favorite choice when the made the name change,  but part the process is just getting used to the name that they chose. 
Washington especially seems to be slow itself to embrace its new name.  Putting a generic W on its helmet for now.  But I have a hunch it could all be part of a long term marketing strategy.  Give fans about 5-10 years to get used to the new name,  then change the team colors to look more like a Naval Commander Uniform and change the helmet to a classic Navy ship or something like that. I could be wrong.  We will see.


I didnt give the name Indian to anyone

The American people did this over 300 years ago

and just who decided to change it

nobody knows
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« Reply #205 on: March 05, 2024, 11:18:11 AM »
There is no "who" trying to change the term, there are a lot of folks who think it should be more accurately employed.  Fine with me, whatever.

I figure all this name changing surely is going to eliminate racism etc.

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« Reply #206 on: March 05, 2024, 11:18:29 AM »
I don't overly like being called "white" and I don't have any particular affinity to Angles, Saxons, or the Caucasus mountains.

Yet here we are.
you need to contact that mysterious person who just decides these things
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« Reply #207 on: March 05, 2024, 11:20:08 AM »
There is no "who" trying to change the term, there are a lot of folks who think it should be more accurately employed.  Fine with me, whatever.

I figure all this name changing surely is going to eliminate racism etc.
but my point is who has been appointed to decide to change names of something
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« Reply #208 on: March 05, 2024, 11:23:12 AM »
Obviously, no one was appointed, and if so, it would beg the question who was appointed to appoint them.  It's "Society", in part, and I think some Indian tribes wanted some publicity.  The government still calls them Indians.

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Re: OT - Underappreciated Movies
« Reply #209 on: March 05, 2024, 11:23:25 AM »
Yeah. That's called respect.

If the Indians in this country had some big convention and voted to use a certain name then no problem I would respect that

instead one day somebody just decides this with no real authority
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