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Topic: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State

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ELA

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OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« on: July 28, 2022, 12:40:40 PM »
The resumes:

2013 Alabama (11-2)
  • Preseason #1, and held spot during 11-0 start, 9 of which were by 3+ scores
  • Lost on final play of the season to #4 Auburn on the Kick Six, to lose a shot at the SEC and national titles
  • Lost to #11 Oklahoma in Sugar Bowl
  • All-Americans: LB C.J. Mosley (unanimous), OT Cyrus Kouandijo (consensus), S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix (consensus), QB A.J. McCarron


2015 Ohio State (12-1)
  • Ranked #1 all season in the AP Poll, but were #3 in initial CFP Rankings
  • Lone loss was 17-14 at home to #9 Michigan State on a game ending FG
  • Closed season by winning @#10 Michigan 42-13 and 44-28 over #8 Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, their only wins over ranked opponents
  • All-Americans: OT Taylor Decker (consensus), DE Joey Bosa (consensus), RB Ezekiel Elliott, OG Pat Elflein, DT Adolphus Washington, LB Raekwon McMillan, S Von Bell
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2022, 12:56:44 PM »
2015 Ohio State was crazy talented.  They just puckered in a tight game in bad weather.  Urban couldn't stop running the QB.  Assuming this game were played in a bowl setting, the Buckeyes would probably look about like they did in the 2014 playoffs.  
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2022, 01:02:17 PM »
I'm not sure about this one. The 2015 Buckeyes were loaded. However, if I remember correctly, Tom Herman had left for the job in Houston. I firmly believe that the 2014 team looked good in the post season because Herman ran the offense and played to Cordell Jones strength. If the 2015 offense was run by Herman with Jones at QB, I would take tOSU in a heartbeat. 

But with JT running the ball every other play, the Bama defense is to talented to let them march up and down the field. They would load up the box and dare JT to throw the ball down field. I'm going to have to go with Bama on this one as Tom Herman was already in Houston.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2022, 01:03:15 PM »
This one is about as close as any of them I think.  Toss up, I voted OSU.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2022, 01:06:59 PM »
me too 

the Sooners weren't that good
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2022, 02:18:31 PM »
Agree with @NorthernOhioBuckeye on most of what he says. 2015 tOSU with Herman/Jones easily but that isn't historically accurate. 2015 tOSU with JT running way too frequently only managed 14 points on MSU. Bama-13 probably had a better D than MSU-15, but bowl weather wouldn't have been as bad as the MSU game so that might be a wash. 14 points isn't enough to beat Bama-13 so the tOSU-15 offense would need more than that. Close call.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2022, 03:11:45 PM »
I took Bama. That seemed like a more together team. 

The Zeke hospital thing was an issue in that loss and the Jones work ethic thing created that QB instability.

Left me with the feel OSU was less trustworthy in the meat of that season. 
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2022, 05:42:36 PM »
A lot of harping on a QB that averaged 5.9 ypc.  OSU fans are irrational when it comes to Barrett.  Over and over.  At every opportunity.

I took Bama....these are very similar teams....run-first, with a very healthy ypc, great WRs, but none in their breakout years - they both spread the ball around.....both had great defenses.  
One advantage Bama has is Cyrus Jones as a return man and their punter absolutely booting it at 47 yds per kick.  

Or maybe Saban just out-schemes Meyer, since Meyer left Florida for being scared at facing Saban, right?  Pfffft.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2022, 06:59:39 PM »
I don't get why OSU fans are so down on Barrett
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2022, 07:43:28 PM »
I think 3 games stick in my mind with regards to JT.  

1) 2015 MSU obviously.  
2) 2016 vs. Clemson, 31-0.  OSU should never be shut out.
3) 2017 vs. Oklahoma 31-16.  Again the offense looked pathetic and was shortly after the Clemson game.

I won't add Iowa, because despite 4 INTs, I don't blame JT as much.  The defense was awful that day, so it wouldn't have mattered.

He was mostly a good to even great college QB, but the lows against these good teams were pretty rough.
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2022, 09:06:56 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 28, 2022, 06:59:39 PM
I don't get why OSU fans are so down on Barrett
I hope we don't get too deep with this. I think we've done that more than arguing the merits of Harbaugh vs Urban. And that was like an every other week thing.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2022, 09:16:30 PM by bayareabadger »
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2022, 09:16:03 PM »
Quote from: Abba on July 28, 2022, 07:43:28 PM
I think 3 games stick in my mind with regards to JT. 
It's weird to say this makes me sad in a way, but it kind of does.

Not that I think of him as a world beater, but that someone would think of all of those three ahead of MSU in 2014 (and some of his other games), just feels very glass half empty. You play 44 games. Six are losses, and half are the standouts. 

It perhaps speaks to something that in this effort where players sacrifice their bodies for our joy, we are designed in some ways to dwell on the times they did not bring us joy. 
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2022, 10:04:54 PM »
Of that three year run, 2013-2015, the best was the 2014 MSU team.  They went 11-2, with the two losses being to the NC participants, and it was basically a one man QB show in both.  JT Barrett and Marcus Mariota were all that was between MSU and a national title, even though 2013 and 2015 technically came closer.  Those were worse teams
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Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - 2013 Alabama vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2022, 06:58:33 AM »
OSU by a little.
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