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Topic: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State

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ELA

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OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« on: August 01, 2022, 10:21:45 AM »
The resumes:

1971 Oklahoma (11-1)
  • Beat #17 USC (by 13), #3 Texas (by 21) and #6 Colorado (by 28) in consecutive weeks in October
  • Led nation in scoring and total offense, set the NCAA record for rushing offense
  • Lone loss came on Thanksgiving weekend to #1 Nebraska, 35-31, in the first Game of the Century in 5 years, losing with 1:38 left
  • Beat #5 Auburn 40-22 in Sugar Bowl
  • S&P+ #18 team since World War II
  • All-Americans: RB Greg Pruitt (consensus), OC Tom Brahaney (consensus), QB Jack Mildren, OG Ken Jones, LB Steve Aycock


2015 Ohio State (12-1)
  • Ranked #1 all season in the AP Poll, but were #3 in initial CFP Rankings
  • Lone loss was 17-14 at home to #9 Michigan State on a game ending FG
  • Closed season by winning @#10 Michigan 42-13 and 44-28 over #8 Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl, their only wins over ranked opponents
  • All-Americans: OT Taylor Decker (consensus), DE Joey Bosa (consensus), RB Ezekiel Elliott, OG Pat Elflein, DT Adolphus Washington, LB Raekwon McMillan, S Von Bell
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2022, 10:51:20 AM »
I am presuming we're updating the 1971 players to being of modern size.
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 11:02:51 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 01, 2022, 10:51:20 AM
I am presuming we're updating the 1971 players to being of modern size.
I assumed we were shrinking the modern guys
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2022, 11:03:54 AM »
Rick Moranis is standing by.
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2022, 11:06:28 AM »
I voted for OU, but I'm guessing their OL averaged about 250.
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2022, 11:20:35 AM »
There's no REAL way to compare teams of different eras.  You just have to sort of suspend your disbelief and imagine they're playing in a hypothetical world where differences in size, nutrition, training, and rules, are made uniform.
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2022, 11:58:22 AM »
Quote from: Abba on August 01, 2022, 11:03:54 AM
Rick Moranis is standing by.
To shrink the OSU players or to play OL for Oklahoma?
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2022, 12:06:53 PM »
1971 Oklahoma football roster - HuskerMax

Looks like they averaged closer to 235.  Their heaviest offensive player is listed at 244.  So, we have to magically presume that isn't a factor in the comparison.

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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2022, 01:52:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 01, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
1971 Oklahoma football roster - HuskerMax

Looks like they averaged closer to 235.  Their heaviest offensive player is listed at 244.  So, we have to magically presume that isn't a factor in the comparison.
The speed of the transformation of major college and even NFL football players from normal guys into genetic freaks is amazing. 
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2022, 08:51:15 PM »
Ugh, why is this always an issue in these 'what if' scenarios?

You base it on how good the players were.  Like in a 0-100 scale, maybe OU's 235 lb left tackle was a 90 out of 100 player.  And perhaps OSU's 300 lb guard was an 84 out of 100 player.  

Player size, skill and coaching strategies gradually improve and grow over time.  The worst team in 2022 would destroy the best team from 1950 if they actually played.  That's not what this is about, obviously.  
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2022, 09:12:34 PM »
In case we need reminding,  Frank Solich played fullback at Nebraska, even got caught tying a weight under his pants on weigh in day.  Still maxed at 155.
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2022, 10:41:26 PM »
So... he stuffs his pants...?
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2022, 11:00:19 PM »
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Re: OT Tourney (Championship) - 1971 Oklahoma vs. 2015 Ohio State
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2022, 07:04:10 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 01, 2022, 08:51:15 PM
Ugh, why is this always an issue in these 'what if' scenarios?
It's because around here we don't accept mediocrity.
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