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Topic: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1980 Pittsburgh vs. 1981 Penn State

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ELA

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OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1980 Pittsburgh vs. 1981 Penn State
« on: July 09, 2022, 12:30:23 PM »
The resumes:

1980 Pittsburgh (11-1)
  • Named national champ by NYT and Sagarin
  • Lone loss came at #11 Florida State
  • Won at #5 Penn State in the season finale, and over #18 South Carolina for only two win over ranked teams
  • Had 4 future NFL Hall of Famers, 6 future All-Pro players, and 7 players taken in the first 69 picks of the 1981 Draft
  • SP+ #5 team of the 80s
  • All-Americans: OT Mark May (unanimous), DE Hugh Green (unanimous), TE Benjie Pryor, DE Rickey Jackson


1981 Penn State (10-2)
  • Loss to Miami when ranked #1 is viewed as the starting point of the Canes run in the 80s
  • Other loss was to #6 Alabama at home
  • Beat #1 Pitt 48-14 in the season finale to snap Pitt's 17 game win streak and cost them a shot at a national title
  • Beat #8 USC 26-10 in the Fiesta Bowl
  • SP+ #1 team of the 80's
  • All-Americans: OG Sean Farrell (unanimous), RB Curt Warner, OG Mike Munchak, LB Chet Parlavecchio, CB Paul Lankford
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1980 Pittsburgh vs. 1981 Penn State
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2022, 06:53:51 PM »
Quote from: ELA on July 09, 2022, 12:30:23 PM





1981 Penn State (10-2)

  • SP+ #1 team of the 80's
  • All-Americans: OG Sean Farrell (unanimous), RB Curt Warner, OG Mike Munchak, LB Chet Parlavecchio, CB Paul Lankford


This is where SP+ loses me.  There's no plain justification for this.  It doesn't add up.  The stats, schedule and outcomes.....nope.
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Re: OT Tourney (1st Round) - 1980 Pittsburgh vs. 1981 Penn State
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2022, 07:24:22 PM »
I found that very curious as well.  Granted his metric, I believe, analyzes on a play-by-play basis, and when he went back and did retroactive rankings, I believe he had to alter his formula to just account for margin of victory. So for all I know it's just a different bill Connolly formula, that he slapped that tag on. But some of those retro rankings are so screwed up that they may not have been worth publishing
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