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Topic: #11 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) at Rutgers (0-2, 3-2) Post Game

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2021, 12:59:49 PM »
College is definitely harder because you have to do all the same stuff as the NFL and then also recruit.
I was thinking the same thing.  As an NFL coach you have a real off-season.  As a college coach you really don't.  

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2021, 02:07:48 PM »
College is likely a lot more work than the NFL, but that doesn't mean it's harder.

A garbageman works a HELL of a lot harder than a neurosurgeon, but I'd say the neurosurgeon has the harder job. 

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2021, 02:39:04 PM »
College is definitely harder because you have to do all the same stuff as the NFL and then also recruit.
LOL. No. Urban dominated college. He can't even win a game in the pros. Jimmy Johnson has said many times- college is easy compared to NFL.

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2021, 02:39:45 PM »
College is likely a lot more work than the NFL, but that doesn't mean it's harder.

A garbageman works a HELL of a lot harder than a neurosurgeon, but I'd say the neurosurgeon has the harder job.
basically this.

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2021, 02:43:55 PM »
LOL. No. Urban dominated college. He can't even win a game in the pros. Jimmy Johnson has said many times- college is easy compared to NFL.
Urban has a, to use your term, shithole roster in the NFL right now. That team went 1-15 in 2020. 

I agree with you that the NFL is harder than college, but I wouldn't exactly write the epitaph on Urban Meyer based on 4 games. 

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2021, 02:47:14 PM »
Urban has a, to use your term, shithole roster in the NFL right now. That team went 1-15 in 2020.

I agree with you that the NFL is harder than college, but I wouldn't exactly write the epitaph on Urban Meyer based on 4 games.
Yeah, I'm not writing Urban off either. He's a hell of a coach. I was merely pointing out that- arguably the best or 2nd best college coach ever- is 0-4 in his first NFL season as a head coach. When is the last time Urban lost 4 games in a season let alone 4 games in a row? Probably never.

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2021, 02:52:28 PM »
Yeah, I'm not writing Urban off either. He's a hell of a coach. I was merely pointing out that- arguably the best or 2nd best college coach ever- is 0-4 in his first NFL season as a head coach. When is the last time Urban lost 4 games in a season let alone 4 games in a row? Probably never.


He lost three out of four, following a 24-0 start at OSU, the last of which was to VA Tech en route to a NC. 
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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2021, 02:59:29 PM »
College is likely a lot more work than the NFL, but that doesn't mean it's harder.

A garbageman works a HELL of a lot harder than a neurosurgeon, but I'd say the neurosurgeon has the harder job.
I don't know that the NFL is exactly neurosurgeon level stuff. It's not like NFL coaches come to college and dominate with their tactical wizardry. 

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2021, 03:17:43 PM »
I don't know that the NFL is exactly neurosurgeon level stuff. It's not like NFL coaches come to college and dominate with their tactical wizardry.
I think many of them fail because they DO have tactical wizardry but they don't have players who can execute it. 

You have players with less talent, with limited (by rule) practice time, who are also balancing the workload of a student. They can't run the NFL playbook, and a lot of NFL coaches who come down to the college level never adjust to that. 

Guys like Mike Leach famously install their offense in three days in camp. Leach is known--or was previously--for teaching his receivers routes only on one side of the formation, because he'd rather have his WR be capable of executing the route in his sleep rather than have the flexibility of playing them on both sides of the formation. 



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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2021, 04:30:04 PM »
I think many of them fail because they DO have tactical wizardry but they don't have players who can execute it.

You have players with less talent, with limited (by rule) practice time, who are also balancing the workload of a student. They can't run the NFL playbook, and a lot of NFL coaches who come down to the college level never adjust to that.

Guys like Mike Leach famously install their offense in three days in camp. Leach is known--or was previously--for teaching his receivers routes only on one side of the formation, because he'd rather have his WR be capable of executing the route in his sleep rather than have the flexibility of playing them on both sides of the formation.

Conversely, see Jim Harbaugh, who went to he NFL from college, simplified the offense, which helped him almost win a Super Bowl. Then he went back down to college and can't quite get the offense over the hump. 

I dunno - there is a thought that the NFL is just super-complicated and thereby harder. I don't see it. College offenses, especially now, aren't particularly different from pro ones, and really pro offenses are getting a lot of their inspiration from college instead of vice versa. That's why Kliff Kingsbury got hired to be a head coach in the NFL despite not succeeding in college. They are running mostly all the same stuff, but college coaches then have to recruit. Further, college coaches can actually get more complicated - they have much more depth than pro teams, who are still basically signing up people off the street to fill in gaps due to injuries.

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Re: #11 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) at Rutgers (0-1, 3-1) Game Week
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2021, 08:06:26 PM »
Conversely, see Jim Harbaugh, who went to he NFL from college, simplified the offense, which helped him almost win a Super Bowl. Then he went back down to college and can't quite get the offense over the hump.
Jim Harbaugh is basically a retard who caught lighting in a bottle. That run in San Fran was a fluke.

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