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Topic: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't

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SuperMario

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2023, 12:00:26 PM »
Great thread.

I was a 90's teenager. Two rock bands that I never understood the appeal were STP & Red Hot Chili Peppers. Always tried to like them, but never could.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2023, 12:01:38 PM »
Built to Spill

The Black Keys

I like a very narrow section of country music, and Chris Stapleton is in that sliver. But I just don't dig him.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2023, 12:05:49 PM »
I think there are artists which do portend perhaps the next sound or wave, as noted we've chronicled a lot of this. 

Sometimes it's call being ahead of your time.
Commercially an obvious one is the Cars.  They had such a unique sound which is both timeless and influential from a what's coming standpoint.

Another artist I love which is frankly less approachable, especially now is Bjork.   Nobody does what she does.  Her more familiar sounds, which are now about 30 years old are really timeless, and they've been very influential.   Are Her latest sounds groundbreaking for others?  Fossora is an amazingly challenging but innovative record.  She's kind of had a career arc like David Bowie is some ways.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2023, 12:10:30 PM »
Great thread.

I was a 90's teenager. Two rock bands that I never understood the appeal were STP & Red Hot Chili Peppers. Always tried to like them, but never could.
Yeah this is more like it.  I, too, struggle to like the RHCP.  At first I was into them, and then all of their songs just started sounding identical to me, and I lost interest.  But lotsa folks still absolutely love them, and I probably should too.  Great example of the OP's intent.

Built to Spill

The Black Keys

I like a very narrow section of country music, and Chris Stapleton is in that sliver. But I just don't dig him.

Black Keys for me, too.  I like plenty of other similar bands, I just can't get into them for some reason.  

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2023, 12:12:59 PM »

What's a musical artist that you "should" like, but you don't.



Eminem

I perfectly fit the demo and musical tastes that Eminem widely tapped into in the early 2000s – Skinny Tall Midwest White Boy Throttled By Teenage Anger.

Cut from the basketball team, didn’t know how to face my future, Mom battling health/drug issues, Dad gone from home a lot, parents unable to get ahead of their financial problems.

A home of typical dusfunction where Eminem’s music would otherwise be welcomed with open arms.

Instead, I quietly took him to be a bit of an overdone phoney. For one too many of my classmates became Eminem wannabes to the point it didn’t say anything to be a fan of him. Unlike how it said something to be a fan of Insane Clown Posse, Marilyn Manson, Korn, and Nu Metal. (In retrospect I know those offerings sorely fail the test of time but as a 7th/8th/9th grader understand that’s the material I was given.)

I thought Eminem played up and even wallowed in his hardships too much, but to most 8th graders that’s what balanced Eminem as both “hard” yet relatable.

Two, I wondered about the music itself. Eminem’s lyrics were always strong and memorable but the beats weren’t nearly as sophisticated other rappers.

And finally, if I wanted to go all the way with it, my parents would’ve had my head forcibly shaved if I sat down to dinner with my hair dyed blonde.

My parents didn’t like my music and over our teen years had my brothers and I get rid of CDs by Blink 182, Chili Peppers, and Linkin Park. All three of which I still like listening to on the local Alt Rock station.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2023, 12:13:03 PM »
Yeah this is more like it.  I, too, struggle to like the RHCP.  At first I was into them, and then all of their songs just started sounding identical to me, and I lost interest.  But lotsa folks still absolutely love them, and I probably should too.  Great example of the OP's intent.
Interesting for me on this is both STP and Nirvana. I was huge on them back in the day. Don't have much if any interest in listening to either now. 

Yet I still love Pearl Jam's early stuff.

Love RHCP tho.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2023, 12:17:29 PM »
Great thread.

I was a 90's teenager. Two rock bands that I never understood the appeal were STP & Red Hot Chili Peppers. Always tried to like them, but never could.
I love RHCP, and do not like STP at all.  So I guess they would fit for me as well

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2023, 12:30:33 PM »
Not the point, but hot take for all the hundreds of people from yesteryear who always accused STP of being Pearl Jam-lite, or knockoffs or whatever.

The STP guys are way better musicians than the Pearl Jam guys.  And almost any other grunge-era band.  If it were Sesame Street, STP is the thing not like the others. 

You don't have to like them and I'd never fault anybody who doesn't (although I do), but objectively, they are much better at their instruments than any of their contemporaries ever thought about being.  Which kind of makes sense, since "grunge" originated in Seattle and was basically a legitimized genre of garage bands, which is what all the earliest grunge bands were.  But STP was from Los Angeles, which was still steeped in the highly stylized, producer-driven, commercial scene.  Not that STP was that, but they come from that scene, and the effect seems to be real.  I didn't notice it when I was a teen listening to all that.  When I go back and listen to it now, it's glaringly obvious.  

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2023, 12:40:41 PM »
Not the point, but hot take for all the hundreds of people from yesteryear who always accused STP of being Pearl Jam-lite, or knockoffs or whatever.

The STP guys are way better musicians than the Pearl Jam guys.  And almost any other grunge-era band.  If it were Sesame Street, STP is the thing not like the others. 

You don't have to like them and I'd never fault anybody who doesn't (although I do), but objectively, they are much better at their instruments than any of their contemporaries ever thought about being.  Which kind of makes sense, since "grunge" originated in Seattle and was basically a legitimized genre of garage bands, which is what all the earliest grunge bands were.  But STP was from Los Angeles, which was still steeped in the highly stylized, producer-driven, commercial scene.  Not that STP was that, but they come from that scene, and the effect seems to be real.  I didn't notice it when I was a teen listening to all that.  When I go back and listen to it now, it's glaringly obvious. 
I think part of that discussion is based on whether or not people consider STP as "true grunge". So are they Pearl Jam-lite because they are a lesser version of such, or because they're not quite in that genre?

Fair or not, to me, they're not quite true grunge. But that is not to take anything away from them in regards to talent.

If I were to rank the big grunge bands + STP by my personal preference, it's:

STP
Pearl Jam
Alice in Chains
Nirvana
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Soundgarden

ETA: IMO, Robert DeLeo is criminally underrated as both a bass player and song writer.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2023, 12:51:20 PM »
I think part of that discussion is based on whether or not people consider STP as "true grunge". So are they Pearl Jam-lite because they are a lesser version of such, or because they're not quite in that genre?

Fair or not, to me, they're not quite true grunge. But that is not to take anything away from them in regards to talent.

If I were to rank the big grunge bands + STP by my personal preference, it's:

STP
Pearl Jam
Alice in Chains
Nirvana
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Soundgarden

ETA: IMO, Robert DeLeo is criminally underrated as both a bass player and song writer.
Interesting.  For me it's

Alice in Chains
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Pearl Jam/STP/Soundgarden/Temple of the Dog
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Nirvana


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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2023, 12:52:41 PM »
I think part of that discussion is based on whether or not people consider STP as "true grunge". So are they Pearl Jam-lite because they are a lesser version of such, or because they're not quite in that genre?

Fair or not, to me, they're not quite true grunge. But that is not to take anything away from them in regards to talent.

I believe the Pearl Jam comparisons were because, at least early on, people thought Scott Weiland sounded like Eddie Vedder.  Which....I guess I get that.  Musically though, they just weren't very much alike.  I mean really, at a small enough level, none of the grunge bands were quite alike musically, but I think if you group them all together minus STP, you'll have more similarities than between STP and any of the rest of them.  Which doesn't have anything to do with the fact I think STP were better musicians.  It's both....I think they were better musicians, playing music that was distinct from the rest.

Although, I would still call STP grunge.  Or alternative, or whatever.  They certainly weren't mainstream rock as it was constituted at the time, so seems like technically they'd have to be considered "alternative."  But I think there's room for a wide range of sounds within a genre.  Nirvana was sort of the Seattle garage version of a punk band, Pearl Jam was basically a blues-based rock band that got repackaged as something new and fresh, and STP was....well, I don't know what they were.  I think about the chord progression of a song like "Plush," and I still don't know which corners of their ass the DeLeo brothers pulled that from.  Despite the fact I think it's right to classify them with all those other bands, I think you are also correct....within that classification, it's right to divide it up into STP and the rest of them.  


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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2023, 12:52:53 PM »
So, I guess we've teased out that Nirvana is a band I should like, and that I definitely don't.

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Re: OT: Musical artists you "should" like but don't
« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2023, 12:56:40 PM »
So, I guess we've teased out that Nirvana is a band I should like, and that I definitely don't.

The Dave Grohl Effect skews my perceptions of the past.  I remember not liking Nirvana nearly as well as others at the time.  But I've enjoyed most of what Grohl has done since then, particularly with the Foo Fighters and Queens of the Stone Age.  And it creates this misleading memory that I also liked Nirvana because of him.  And if I hear Nirvana now, I do enjoy his drumming.

But I'm pretty sure the reality is, at the time, I didn't care much for Nirvana.  

 

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