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Honestbuckeye

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« Reply #2016 on: Today at 10:58:37 AM »
Even worse. But as the Florida post I just made showed, this is still a national trend.

And the point being that you talk about what our grandparents did to afford a house, but failed to mention that the houses relative to income are significantly more expensive today.

Oh, and those are increasingly two-income households--which in contrast to what you posted regarding grandparents where the wife predominently stayed at home so they only had one car, necessitates being a two-vehicle household. Yet you blame them for having two cars.

But no... Let's just blame today's generation for being coddled and whiny, while we disregard the tremendous societal changes that actually make home ownership more expensive and harder to achieve.
You are confusing me.

homeownership today is much harder to achieve financially than it was many years ago. I don’t think anybody disputes that and that’s kind of unknown and universally accepted challenge for our country. But it’s not new. It has been trending that way for many, many years. 

but what does that have to do with the boomer generation?

And now you’re yelling at boomers for blaming the “younger generation“ but remember this pot got stirred from somebody blaming the boomers, for basically anything, and everything

so what is your point?
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« Reply #2017 on: Today at 11:10:24 AM »
You are confusing me.

homeownership today is much harder to achieve financially than it was many years ago. I don’t think anybody disputes that and that’s kind of unknown and universally accepted challenge for our country. But it’s not new. It has been trending that way for many, many years.

but what does that have to do with the boomer generation?

And now you’re yelling at boomers for blaming the “younger generation“ but remember this pot got stirred from somebody blaming the boomers, for basically anything, and everything

so what is your point?
My point is that what bothers me is that the Boomers are tone-deaf and lack empathy for the generations that came after. 

They rode a wave of prosperity and economic/financial/social conditions that were of enormous benefit. One that later generations didn't have. But when questioned about it, they act like they were the cause of those conditions rather than the beneficiaries, and that the later generations are just whining because they're not as hard-working, or as disciplined, or whatever as the Boomers.

Essentially, to use the old adage, the Boomers were born on third base and think they hit a triple. Or to use a newer one, they've failed to check their privilege. 

There are other policy things--not done deliberately IMHO but merely out of self-interest--where you can make an argument that the Boomers ascended the ladder and then pulled it up after them. That gets a little more dicey to talk about, so I've mostly avoided it. 

But I just don't like their attitude. And that's what I'm calling them out over. 

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« Reply #2018 on: Today at 11:11:02 AM »
I'd blame whoever followed the Boomers

you and my brother!
Hah!

A. So, their mom grew up in Pleasantville. 

B. Their Stepdad grew up very far from that area, near some railroad tracks on the other side.

Ask my boys how they were raised.

(Hint: It's not A.)
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« Reply #2019 on: Today at 11:45:38 AM »
My point is that what bothers me is that the Boomers are tone-deaf and lack empathy for the generations that came after.

They rode a wave of prosperity and economic/financial/social conditions that were of enormous benefit. One that later generations didn't have. But when questioned about it, they act like they were the cause of those conditions rather than the beneficiaries, and that the later generations are just whining because they're not as hard-working, or as disciplined, or whatever as the Boomers.

Essentially, to use the old adage, the Boomers were born on third base and think they hit a triple. Or to use a newer one, they've failed to check their privilege.

There are other policy things--not done deliberately IMHO but merely out of self-interest--where you can make an argument that the Boomers ascended the ladder and then pulled it up after them. That gets a little more dicey to talk about, so I've mostly avoided it.

But I just don't like their attitude. And that's what I'm calling them out over.
Their attitude.  Interesting.  I respect your observations- but I am sure you know that is the sweeepiest of generalizations.

Maybe because I am at the very tail end of the defined years of the baby boomer generation- I have been immersed by people and culture with more of the Gen X traits, so I just don’t see much ( some, yes) of what you describe.  My folks and their friends/family were the Silent generation- so I didn’t grow up with what you are seeing. 
Sure- there has always been the
older, grumpier bitching about young folks and their cloths, their music, etc.  But most of that I witnessed came from my grandparents- The Greatest Generation. 

I will take your word for it I guess. But I just don’t see it.  And I have a career and a geography where if it was prevalent, it would be really obvious.
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« Reply #2020 on: Today at 11:58:14 AM »
Their attitude.  Interesting.  I respect your observations- but I am sure you know that is the sweeepiest of generalizations.
Of course. It's not everyone. The ones guilty of it make the sweepiest of generalizations about the younger generation, though. And it's the ones guilty of it who are the loudest, which is why the perception exists that it's more prevalent amongst the generation as a whole. 

The loudest of any group can disproportionately affect perception of said group. 

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« Reply #2021 on: Today at 12:07:48 PM »
Try hiring kids out of college these days and let me know how that goes for ya.
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« Reply #2022 on: Today at 12:35:08 PM »
My point is that what bothers me is that the Boomers are tone-deaf and lack empathy for the generations that came after.
Wasn't it you that groused to OAM about "sweeping generalizations"? So what infraction are 67 million people all in consensus about? I've stated repeatedly "I weep for the future" so sans myself who ya got?
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« Reply #2023 on: Today at 01:06:37 PM »
My point is that what bothers me is that the Boomers are tone-deaf and lack empathy for the generations that came after.

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But I just don't like their attitude. And that's what I'm calling them out over.
Some are, some aren't.  Some do, some don't.

Just like some Millennials and GenZ really are as lazy and entitled as they're often accused of.  And some aren't.


 

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