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Topic: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)

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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #812 on: May 07, 2020, 06:02:38 PM »
You're arguing something I'm not addressing on purpose.  I get all of that, BUT - no state should release its results until all states are finished voting.  Virginia can start counting and finish, but hold onto the results until the other states' voting are closed. 
I don't see any harm in that and kind of can't believe why it isn't that way.
I don't see any harm in that either, although I haven't thought it through.
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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #813 on: May 07, 2020, 06:41:49 PM »
Here's an idea.... Instead of having just 1 day for primaries and elections why not have a larger window of time. It could be a few weeks or a few months. Put all of the states in the same window of time, too, so none of them have disproportionate influence like they do in the primaries.... Do any other countries have a similar system?

Maybe this is a bad idea for some reason, but I can't think of a good reason why yet....
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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #814 on: May 07, 2020, 06:43:18 PM »
Bear in mind, the two political parties are in charge of primaries.  Some states obviously do caucuses.  They can do whatever they want.

This is not a government operation.

Most other countries have a parlimentary system.

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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #815 on: May 07, 2020, 06:54:11 PM »
Two things:

1) Assuming that the media still has license to free speech, they will probably start reporting election results based on exit polls and whatnot. Not sure if you've noticed how they'll call a state a minute after voting ends because they know it's "safe", despite 0% precincts reporting. 

2) It's unworkable for primaries to be different for one party than the other in a state. Many states will have other ballot choices going on during primary season. So the idea that the Republicans might move their California primary to September because they won't win CA anyway while the Democrats will move their California primary to January because they win CA all the time makes no sense. California won't hold 6 different primaries for all the different parties that want one on *their* date. They've gotta hold ONE primary. 

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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #816 on: May 07, 2020, 07:14:52 PM »
I don't think any other country has anything remotely like how we choose candidates/nominees.  It isn't "needed".  The party PTBs choose the candidates.  Often, certain seats are "safe" so they put in their cousin or whoever as a safe yes vote.

The President of France, Macron, has far greater powers than our President because of de Gaulle.  The thing holding him back mostly is the labor unions and farmers.

I think in Russia, they just pick Vladimir, or if he can't run, his "cousin".


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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #817 on: May 07, 2020, 10:01:26 PM »
Yeah, Flynn pled guilty to the least of his crimes and the feds dropped the more serious stuff.  Now he wants to retract his guilty plea.  I have little sympathy for the guy.
However, I'll always believe that if I as an Army officer had disclosed the classified information that Hillary did before, during, and after her tenure as Secretary of State I would have been court-martialed, convicted, and sent to Leavenworth for the Long Tour.  I was in three different assignments that required me to have a TS-plus clearance, so I've had some experience dealing with classified material.  As we operated when I was an air cavalry squadron S-2 (intelligence and security officer), my team would not disclose information from open sources if we knew that it was classified.  So, even if TIME magazine had a story that included information in it that we knew to be classified, we would not use that information in a non-classified briefing.  Hillary, at the opposite end of the carefulness spectrum, figured that if she just deleted the classification markings from a document, it was OK to deal with it as if it came out of TIME magazine.
I saw an analysis of what the FBI did and it did not meet the definition of entrapment.  Entrapment is when you trick the other party into committing a crime, not when you trick him into admitting that he committed it.
I don't think the FBI has clean hands in all its dealings with Trump associates, subordinates, and hangers-on, but that doesn't mean that Flynn should not suffer punishment for his crimes.
Well a significant portion of the Trump administration has done the exact same thing Hillary did.  They have all been caught using private servers to avoid FOIA.  That's not political, that's a fact.

Absolutely Hillary is guilty, but if you're being truly impartial, you should realize this is very common.

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Re: Government Policy and Budget Discussion Thread (no politics)
« Reply #818 on: May 07, 2020, 10:10:36 PM »
Done for now.
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