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OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #126 on:** May 13, 2018, 01:31:54 PM »

I don't want to start a whole big thing here, but I can't help but connect who I guess are conservative-leaning people defending HOAs...aren't HOAs just a smaller version of paying higher taxes for a big gov't? Am I off on that?

Wouldn't a conservative person who wants access to a pool use his own money and install a pool into his own back yard? Not relying on the HOA fees being 'pooled' together for a community pool? Can I say it seems hypocritical without seeming like I'm attacking anyone and thus, no one needing to get defensive?

I'm just sharing ideas that have occurred to me. Not trying to insult or be a jerk or offend.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #127 on:** May 13, 2018, 01:41:11 PM »

An HOA obviously is just a small local group with some common purpose. We live in a condo now, so an HOA is pretty much required for obvious reasons as we have a lot of shared property.

I don't see any connection to the usual concept of "Big Government" as something distant and expensive and "big" in which one has little voice. I'd also note that IMHO both parties like "Big Government" since they derive their power therefrom. They just mouth off some differences as to what should be BIG and what should be LITTLE.

To the extent government is a collection of people with some common purpose, an HOA is an example, but obviously at a very small level.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #128 on:** May 13, 2018, 01:42:00 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on May 13, 2018, 09:54:26 AM

you have no idea

Yeah, given the plethora of channels that are 100% advertising, there must be a substantial audience.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #129 on:** May 13, 2018, 03:40:27 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on May 13, 2018, 01:41:11 PM

An HOA obviously is just a small local group with some common purpose. We live in a condo now, so an HOA is pretty much required for obvious reasons as we have a lot of shared property. like public lands

I don't see any connection to the usual concept of "Big Government" as something distant and expensive and "big" in which one has little voice. I'd also note that IMHO both parties like "Big Government" since they derive their power therefrom. They just mouth off some differences as to what should be BIG and what should be LITTLE. when you first move in, you don't have much of a say

To the extent government is a collection of people with some common purpose, an HOA is an example, but obviously at a very small level. a country is just a collection of states, cities, and towns

FearlessF · « **Reply #130 on:** May 13, 2018, 08:42:52 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on May 13, 2018, 01:42:00 PM

Yeah, given the plethora of channels that are 100% advertising, there must be a substantial audience.

the good thing is that those channels don't usually charge a fee per subscriber to the cable company

Cincydawg · « **Reply #131 on:** May 14, 2018, 08:10:31 AM »

Yeah, no fee is obviously good, but I still wonder how so many sales channels can exist on "cable". I surmise people are often bored, which is supported by observing how younger folks walking around on a nice day in a nice park are glued to their phones. They might look up briefly and then are back to their phones. That has to be an addiction of a sort.

I see couples at restaurants sitting and both are looking at their phones, even on Valentine's Day.

I have a hard time imagining what is SO important that normal folks cannot be separated from their phone for more than a few seconds.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #132 on:** May 14, 2018, 09:18:18 AM »

I suppose the smallest government unit would be a couple, and then a family, and then perhaps an HOA of a sort. I don't think any of those share much in common with the government of a country beyond the basics, a group trying to be organized enough to serve common interests. An HOA is not something some "small government advocate" would object to since it is among the smallest of governmental types extant.

I'd guess an anarchist would dislike all of the above while perhaps retaining some sort of family hierarchy. Maybe a "true anarchist" would dislike any family structure as well, interesting point.

Do we have any anarchists here?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #133 on:** May 14, 2018, 09:24:52 AM »

I'm no anarchist, but I'd love to go back to What Ben Franklin said he gave us, which was a government by the people and for the people.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #134 on:** May 14, 2018, 09:40:52 AM »

Obviously, there is no "going back" to such a time. I was reading about how the average citizen had almost no interaction with "Federal government" outside times of war until the FDR era, or perhaps one could date this earlier to when income tax was firmly established. Folks would vote, of course, and be drafted as needed, but otherwise "Federal government" played no role in their lives.

The Feds took up less than one percent of GDP outside time of war, versus today's 20+ percent or so. One can pine for those days of course, but short of some massive implosion, they aren't returning, ever. We probably would have to pass through actual anarchy before getting to it.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #135 on:** May 14, 2018, 09:43:36 AM »

It's nice to have dreams. It's just too big.

FearlessF · « **Reply #136 on:** May 14, 2018, 10:03:25 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on May 14, 2018, 09:40:52 AM

We probably would have to pass through actual anarchy before getting to it.

this could happen

Cincydawg · « **Reply #137 on:** May 14, 2018, 10:21:28 AM »

I worked for a large company and came to appreciate that large human organizations are inherently rife with inefficiency and flat out silliness. Very few people were "invested" in the well being of the company, and their personal interests were nearly always opposed to the interests of the company. I view this as inherent and pervasive, the larger the entity the worse it becomes.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #138 on:** May 14, 2018, 10:23:56 AM »

The country as currently established could indeed have an economic meltdown at some point, something far worse than the GD, something more akin to what is happening in Venezuela, but with a heavily armed population here. The protests we see there would devolve into active armed resistance here with the possibility of factions in the LEO community siding against government, and the military as well. I don't foresee any of that in decades of course, I hope not anyway, but to me, we're on a bad trajectory, and it's all due in my mind to lack of cable alternatives.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #139 on:** May 14, 2018, 10:34:59 AM »

It's all due to the content on cable (and social media).

Lots of people buy into anything they read, which is why the Russians were successful in 2016.

Maybe an aptitude test is needed as a part of voter registration... Ha!

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