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847badgerfan

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #308 on: October 23, 2019, 12:06:14 PM »
Pffft. I know I'm old. I've forgotten more shit than you'll ever know, whippersnapper.

Get off my lawn.
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« Reply #309 on: October 23, 2019, 12:39:11 PM »
Pffft. I know I'm old. I've forgotten more shit than you'll ever know, whippersnapper.

Get off my lawn.

Do you still have a lawn?  I thought you moved so you didn't have to worry about one... or is that CD?  I get all you old farts mixed up.

As for content, I like Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon.  I like Stranger Things on Netflix.  I've tried to watch a lot of other stuff on both of them and never really got into any of it.  I don't have Hulu so don't know whether or not they offer any original content.  And now Spectrum is starting to create and offer original content, obviously they're trying to fend off the streaming services and provide more than just the path to content, to increase the switching cost for their customers.  I haven't watched any of their shows yet but they're doing a short multi-episode arc for Mad About You, in a where are they now sense, that I'll probably give a try.

Which reminds me, I actually REALLY like the Spectrum local news for Austin.  They do a reasonable job of covering national and international events, and it's the closest to being unbiased that I've found among local, regional, or national news programs, both OTA and on cable.  If I ever do cut the cord and ditch Spectrum, I'd be sorry to walk away from Spectrum's local news coverage.





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« Reply #310 on: October 23, 2019, 12:39:58 PM »
Badger is OLD.  Of course it's too complicated for him :86: 

btw, source content is a huge element that we've both touched on, and I think goes too much unconsidered in general conversations (not this one).  You hit a very important point earlier, that you don't think any more of the streaming service original shows than network/cable shows.  Consumption desires can't be overstated.  Re-reading my earlier posts, I've possibly made it sound like I never watch anything but football, which is not true.  I happen to like and watch quite a number of Amazon shows, a handful of Netflix shows, and a couple Hulu ones, a lot better than I like what cable channels have to offer.  Network TV...I don't even bother anymore.
Yeah, outside of Food Network [most of which is basically background just to watch "something"] and Top Chef on Bravo, I mostly just watch college football, NFL football, and college basketball from "cable".

We keep talking about watching scripted shows, and we really liked "House of Cards" and "Orange is the New Black" on Netflix. The only thing I ever watch on Amazon is "The Grand Tour". Network-wise, we got into "This is Us" on NBC for a little while, but I tired of the emotional terrorism that is that show. My wife wants me to get into "A Million Little Things", and she watches things like "Gray's Anatomy" and used to watch "Scandal", but none of those are important to me. But those are all available with Hulu's <$10 non-live service, so frankly if I wasn't watching sports I'd drop Hulu to that lower tier.

I'm a huge stand-up comedy fan, and I find that Netflix is REALLY solid there. It used to be that you had Comedy Central, but everything was censored, or you had HBO, which was itself expensive, but Netflix has basically taken over as the go-to for stand-up. 

I think cord-cutting works for me to some extent because there are VERY few things on television that I legitimately care about, especially outside of college football and college basketball seasons. There are often shows I like, but very rarely are they anything that I'd miss if they were gone. 

But I recognize that some people have specific shows that they absolutely won't live without, and for those people, they need whatever service that show is on. #firstworldproblems 

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« Reply #311 on: October 23, 2019, 12:49:12 PM »
I forgot that I no longer have a lawn. But get off it anyway.
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« Reply #312 on: October 23, 2019, 01:09:13 PM »
And that's fair.

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« Reply #313 on: October 23, 2019, 01:22:51 PM »
My experience with DirectV has been mostly good.

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« Reply #314 on: October 23, 2019, 01:28:27 PM »
My experience with DirectV has been mostly good.
Yeah, but how about DirecTV Now?
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« Reply #315 on: October 23, 2019, 01:32:05 PM »
Dunno.  Don't have a choice here.

Internet here is decent also.

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« Reply #316 on: October 23, 2019, 01:36:00 PM »
Netflix has some good originals, but at the moment its primary draw for me is its distribution of previously aired content from other sources.  Those offerings continue to dwindle, and I'm uncertain as to whether or not I want to pay almost $14 strictly for Netflix originals, when the time comes.  It'd probably be a situation where I cut it on during months we plan to be watching something we want to, and cut it off the rest of the time.  

Amazon has so much stuff I like I've lost track.  All those taxes they aren't paying are at least funding some incredible scripted series that I highly enjoy.  I think I could be happy quite a while just working my way through those.  They also seem to have more $ to throw at distribution contracts....I've noticed a fair bit of the stuff that has left Netflix has wound up on Amazon.  It's rare that they lose a show, whereas on Netflix you have to be mindful of how long a non-original will stick around.  Amazon also appears to have some kind of deal with PBS....they have a LOT of stuff that airs on Masterpiece Mystery or Masterpiece Theater.  I've wondered if they also have a deal with HBO as well, as there are a number of non-current HBO shows that HBOGo is evidently not interested in hogging for themselves.  It's quite a lot of content, especially for someone like me who never purchased HBO on any platform and has never seen these shows.   

Hulu has far less but they're clearly in the process of beefing up their originals.  I've only given a couple a try so far--and at this time they don't have many that I can see I want to try--but I like them as well.  The main reason I keep Hulu around is because several of my AMC/FX/BBCA shows wind up there.  And because I still like a couple of the OTA network sitcoms, which Hulu gives me during the months I cut streaming TV off.  And further because it's less than $6.50/mo., which is really a heck of a deal for what all you get.  

Incidentally, my cord-cutting was a tad cheaper when I used Hulu for live TV, as live tv and the Hulu streaming library were essentially bundled.  However the value trade-off wasn't worth it to me, as Hulu doesn't carry AMC or BBCA, and at the moment aren't likely to any time soon.  

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« Reply #317 on: October 23, 2019, 01:53:25 PM »
Netflix has some good originals, but at the moment its primary draw for me is its distribution of previously aired content from other sources.  Those offerings continue to dwindle, and I'm uncertain as to whether or not I want to pay almost $14 strictly for Netflix originals, when the time comes.  It'd probably be a situation where I cut it on during months we plan to be watching something we want to, and cut it off the rest of the time.
I've noticed that the big things in the news has been the rights to previously aired shows... I think it was The Office, then Friends, Seinfeld, and now apparently there's some mega-deal for the previous South Park seasons. There are absolutely BLOCKBUSTER deals being made for these rights. 

I don't get it... I mean, I kinda understand if you're channel surfing and a syndicated show like that comes on the air, maybe you leave it on because you've got nothing better to watch.

But I can't imagine ever actually deliberately choosing to go watch old episodes of Friends or similar. And it would be even more weird for me to make streaming video decisions based on the rights to old episodes of a show popular 15-20 years ago. 

Again, this might just be me... I know I'm weird. 

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« Reply #318 on: October 23, 2019, 01:56:27 PM »
The Office, then Friends, Seinfeld, and now apparently there's some mega-deal for the previous South Park

I couldn't deliberately watch any of them when they were current

I did watch game 1 last night, I was entertained - it seemed "real"
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« Reply #319 on: October 23, 2019, 01:59:53 PM »
There's a difference in "previously aired content" and "things I have seen before."  

For example, I missed Breaking Bad while it was on the air.  Netflix had it, I watched it, that had value for me, a couple years after it was off the air.  They have the first two seasons of Outlander, which I've never seen because I've never had Starz.  There's a lot of other examples.  There are very few things I've watched before I'm inclined to go through again, but the number of things that have already run which I haven't seen is pretty significant.  

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« Reply #320 on: October 23, 2019, 02:06:52 PM »
Dunno.  Don't have a choice here.

Internet here is decent also.
Yes, you can drop your dish or cable and get DirecTV Now, which is a streaming service through your internet. But, I suspect you wouldn't care for it. I know I didn't.


But you get a certain amount of your service for free, no?
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« Reply #321 on: October 23, 2019, 02:09:37 PM »
The only things I've found I'll watch again, are things from a LONG time ago, and that my kids might be interested in.

For example, my 12yo daughter absolutely loves original Star Trek.  She is awed by its cringeworthiness.  It's become something fun for us to do, to watch together.  So Netflix has provided that much entertainment to us, at least.  But overall I'd be fine dropping it tomorrow (and then picking it back up for Stranger Things Season 4, of course :) ).

I don't even really enjoy watching old episodes of shows that I loved, like Seinfeld, Cheers, etc.  Some of them aged better than others, but even the ones that aged well, I just feel like I'm wasting my time watching them over.

This is certainly different than, say, college, when I'd happily stumble across something in syndication that I'd seen dozens of times before, and watch it again.  Now, my time is more precious to me.




 

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