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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #252 on: July 30, 2018, 09:01:05 PM »
Netflix seems to have reached it's peak and may be regressing in ti's market share, but when content such as Netflix can be up to 40% of the traffic at peak bandwidth  spikes, that content or service is causing service providers to invest more money to provide decent service for others on the network that are not Netflix consumers.

One idea is to charge either Netflix and/or Netflix subscribers to pay a bit more for that service to offset the cost.

Another issue is a service such as Facebook causing security issues for customers and the service provider's network, it's possible to limit those security issues.

Think of a providers ability to shut down access to the dark web and criminal activity.

hopefully, it's much more about service providers being able to pay for and protect the networks they have built and continue to maintain.

Obviously, this opens the door for abuses by service providers, but the thought is that the public and the industry will police itself.  There's only one way to find out.  

If Net Neutrality can be repealed, it certainly can be put back in place if things go awry.
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #253 on: July 31, 2018, 03:55:33 PM »
SECN was showing collegiate female bowling last night.  Rain would have been better.  It is raining at the moment.

Turned on the TV and ... Signal on.  Star Trek.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #254 on: July 31, 2018, 03:57:05 PM »
They aliens speak English.

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #255 on: August 22, 2018, 08:41:44 PM »
On the topic of putative "lost net neutrality" consequences:

A fire department in California recently had their data plans throttled down (allegedly to dial-up speeds) while combatting the state's largest ever forest fire. And Verizon wouldn't correct the issue until the fire department upgraded to the next echelon of data plan.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/fire-dept-rejects-verizons-customer-support-mistake-excuse-for-throttling/

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #256 on: August 22, 2018, 11:09:43 PM »
the department had chosen an unlimited data plan that gets throttled to speeds of 200kbps or 600kbps after using 25GB a month but that Verizon failed to follow its policy of "remov[ing] data speed restrictions when contacted in emergency situations."

"This was a customer support mistake" and not a net neutrality issue, Verizon said.

Perhaps the fire department should pay for a plan that assures they have enough bandwidth to support their operations in an emergency?

Because ISPs should take responsibility for their customer's emergencies

56K is the top dial-up modem I remember from the 90's.  200-600K is 4-6 times better, but why not exaggerate?
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #257 on: August 23, 2018, 12:47:54 AM »
Has this been a convention for a long time -- throttling speeds after a customer accumulates a certain amount of data use (e.g., 25GB/mo)? 

If so, and that "if so" needs some convincing first, then I admit my complaint isn't about net neutrality but about the fact that "unlimited data" was ever defined as equivalent to "25GB super fast, and then more, but super slow."

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #258 on: August 23, 2018, 09:41:41 AM »
I'm now concerned that our dish will lose signal on a Saturday.  

I guess I could run down to the restaurant next door, but they may have dish also.

LOS happens nearly every time is rains or is very cloudy.

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« Reply #259 on: August 23, 2018, 10:07:15 AM »
Has this been a convention for a long time -- throttling speeds after a customer accumulates a certain amount of data use (e.g., 25GB/mo)?

If so, and that "if so" needs some convincing first, then I admit my complaint isn't about net neutrality but about the fact that "unlimited data" was ever defined as equivalent to "25GB super fast, and then more, but super slow."
Unlimited data doesn't feel unlimited in my experience.  It's not that we get shut off, but rather, things really slow down or we have 2-3 min shut downs when in heavy use. 

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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #260 on: August 23, 2018, 10:44:30 AM »
Has this been a convention for a long time -- throttling speeds after a customer accumulates a certain amount of data use (e.g., 25GB/mo)?
yes, Verizon wireless, for example, has been doing this since they offered an "unlimited" plan.  Sprint and AT&T were way ahead of Verizon here.  wireline companies have had "data caps" for years.
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #261 on: August 23, 2018, 10:46:27 AM »
I'm now concerned that our dish will lose signal on a Saturday.  

I guess I could run down to the restaurant next door, but they may have dish also.

LOS happens nearly every time is rains or is very cloudy.
no option from your landlord to subscribe to service from the local CATV provider?
better scout the surrounding bars to find one with reliable service
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #262 on: August 23, 2018, 11:57:56 AM »
There are 188 units in this building.  I know the head of the HOA, I could ask, but I'm pretty sure they are locked into Dish.

Any rewiring of this building would be ... difficult.  


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« Reply #263 on: August 23, 2018, 12:39:15 PM »
yup, it's usually all or nothing in those large buildings for a provider

reusing the existing wiring, coax or other, is possible, but probably not easy and clean.
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #264 on: August 24, 2018, 08:16:12 PM »
PHILADELPHIA, PA and LOS ANGELES, CA (August 24, 2018) – Comcast Corporation and Fox Networks Group announced today that they have reached an agreement for Comcast to continue carrying the Big Ten Network. The companies also reached an agreement for Comcast to continue carrying all of the Big Ten games on FS1. 

Under the terms of the agreement, Comcast will continue to offer Big Ten Network to its customers who reside in states with Big Ten universities (Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin). Xfinity customers in Delaware, the District of Columbia, and the Northern Virginia/Beltway area will also continue to receive the network given their proximity to Big Ten schools. In addition, in the coming months, customers outside of the Big Ten states will have access to the Big Ten Network as part of Comcast’s Sports and Entertainment Package.
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Re: OT - Cable Alternatives
« Reply #265 on: August 25, 2018, 06:34:15 AM »
I get BTN as part of our package, and SEC N as well.  It's a pretty good package, not bare bones at all as I had expected.

And it's "FREE"!!!!

My HOA was just sent in BTW.  

 

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