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Yeah, well, that was just pretention on my part.  I can't even spell fisics.  

I think at the end of the year, a 13-0 OSU of course won't need to argue SOS, and a 12-1 OSU who still wins the B1G won't either.  The most likely 12-1 would be a loss to UM, horrible as that would be for their fans, but it's very survivable in terms of the playoff.  The Pac 12 is obviously back in the picture with two one loss teams.

Clemson is the team most liable to a 12-1 record being left out, if they say lose to USCe.  A 12-1 SEC champ is going to be "in".  If every conference champ is 12-1, I think the ACC gets left out.  If Clemson is 13-0, then there could be 4 12-1 conference champs and 3 spots, and that would be a mess.

If Clemson is 13-0, then there could be 4 12-1 conference champs and 3 spots, and that would be a mess.

I don't think that is all that messy.  Clemson, the 12-1 SEC Champ, and the 12-1 B1G Champ are in.  That leaves one spot for either:

• The 12-1 B12 Champ, or
• The 12-1 Pac Champ, or
• A potential 11-1 Bama/LSU or tOSU/PSU loser

I don't think that is all that messy.  Clemson, the 12-1 SEC Champ, and the 12-1 B1G Champ are in.  That leaves one spot for either:

• The 12-1 B12 Champ, or
• The 12-1 Pac Champ, or
• A potential 11-1 Bama/LSU or tOSU/PSU loser

the two that are left out are going to make a helluva mess of this

yup, it would be less messy if:

Clemson, the 12-1 SEC Champ, and the 12-1 B1G Champ are in.  That leaves one spot for either:

The 12-1 B12 Champ, or
The 9-4 Pac Champ, or
A potential 9-4 Bama/LSU or tOSU/PSU loser

i mean, it is 4 quality losses.

Any SEC team with 4 conference losses has 4 quality losses, obviously, we can all agree to that.

If they lost to a nonconference opponent, of course it was because they weren't up for that game etc.

If Minnesota plays OSU in Indy and stays within 30 points, I'd be stunned.