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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #140 on: October 30, 2019, 12:34:50 PM »
The owner publicly came out and supported Trump.  Penn State fans are college educated and the big drinkers are millennials. Neither is exactly a hot demographic for Trump supporters.
I'm somewhat surprised by this for two reasons:

First, my hunch, and this article backs it up, is that CFB fans are right-of-center.  There is a graph on page four that shows various sports fanbases by their Republican/Democrat leaning and their typical turnout:
  • NFL fans are the largest group and they are, predictably, pretty close to average (although slightly to the right and slightly higher turnout).  
  • NBA fans are, by far, the most left-leaning of the major sports.  Only WNBA fans are further to the left.  
  • CFB fans are both one of the most right-leaning and one of the highest turnout groups.  

Second, I thought Millennials didn't drink that much beer.  Article.  

I've always liked Yuengling.  Until a few years ago I couldn't get it in Ohio so it was something of a special treat that I would get once in a while when I went to PA.  


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« Reply #141 on: October 30, 2019, 12:39:13 PM »

My point is that while he was very good, he was also somewhat limited in how far he could really take the offense. I would even speculate that had he NOT gotten injured in the last reg season game in 2014, tOSU may not have steamrolled Wisconsin and gotten into the playoffs. And had they managed to get in, the would have been steamrolled by Bama. Not because JT was not a good player but because he could not pop the top off the defense the way the Jones did.  Bama would have just loaded the box and dared JT to throw it downfield. He may have completed a couple here or there, but most likely would have thrown a few picks.

With all of that said, the issue was that Barrett played to the best of his ability and had some great wins and awesome moments. I am very grateful that he was the QB and happy with the results. But his throwing ability along with UM's insistence that HIS system was the only way to go, possibly cost them even greater success. And even with that, he had another QB later that could both run and throw the ball downfield but never gave him an honest opportunity to demonstrate it. Had he given Burrows that opportunity, they may have achieved even more. But who knows.
Exactly,had he not gotten hurt against UM in'17 same thing.JT put us in a whole,Haskins got us out and then some.People who follow a team weekly see and remember the subtle aspects or variations.What JT did he did good,what he couldn't do was detrimental to the team vs stiff competition
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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #142 on: October 30, 2019, 12:40:15 PM »
apparently Washington National fans lean towards the left

well, according to FB
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« Reply #143 on: October 30, 2019, 12:44:51 PM »

Second, I thought Millennials didn't drink that much beer.  Article

I've always liked Yuengling.  Until a few years ago I couldn't get it in Ohio so it was something of a special treat that I would get once in a while when I went to PA. 


don't confuse taste and preferences for an opportunity to put out the virtue signal.     There are people that would claim to stop eating black licorice if Twizzlers' owners came out in favor of DJT or some other protest worthy cause.   

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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #144 on: October 30, 2019, 12:59:55 PM »
I guess you can see why I'm confused what's allowed around here and what's not.  

Also, apparently I'm a "global moderator."  What exactly does that mean?  Does that mean there are peons here who have to get my coffee?  

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« Reply #145 on: October 30, 2019, 01:02:42 PM »
And you counter with passing yardage?  :57:


Miraculous that such a limited QB could be the ALL TIME B10 leader in TD passes and passer rating (and only 15th in attempts) AND being a top-3 ALL TIME rushing QB in B10 history....same guy, one career.


But he was limited.  He wasn't that good.  Only played because of loyalty.  I guess he was just lucky...on 1,867 plays.

Um try to stay on point.AGAIN Barret isn't in the top 25 in single season stats in the BIG.Why is that?The other guys have NFL contracts.Because for you my misguided correspondent JT padded stats surrounded by NFL talent vs overmatched opponents the team won inspite of him.Next thing you'll tell the congregation that he's better than Haskins and or Burrow who fans were inquiring about.That you in blissful ignorance miss.OBVIOUSLY those two deserved to be at least platooned.
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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #146 on: October 30, 2019, 01:03:58 PM »
I guess you can see why I'm confused what's allowed around here and what's not. 

Also, apparently I'm a "global moderator."  What exactly does that mean?  Does that mean there are peons here who have to get my coffee? 
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« Reply #147 on: October 30, 2019, 01:09:47 PM »
So here's some reality for OSU, and a couple others.

I think it was back around 2013 or so, LSU and Florida players took to twitter to start arguing about who is DBU, a pointless yet ongoing spat.  Recently I've seen OSU enter the fray (which is kinda rude, nobody invited you to our BBQ).  Not OSU players, mind you....the actual school started putting stuff out comparing selective numbers.  They also think they're DBU.

The real question is:  why isn't Alabama ever included in that discussion?  Those guys have had a number of very impressive DBs over the last several years, particularly safeties.  They routinely field one of the most productive and talented secondaries, and they're as high a profile team as it gets.  I'm surprised you don't hear more about them....especially from them.  I mean, claiming titles they want to be true is kind of their thing.  

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« Reply #148 on: October 30, 2019, 01:25:40 PM »
Prolly too busy kissing pictures of Nick or whizzing on pictures of Dabo
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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #149 on: October 30, 2019, 01:35:51 PM »
The "RBU" type discussions are amusing.  They should compile a list and argue about it on Espin, the magazine.


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« Reply #150 on: October 30, 2019, 01:57:25 PM »
I'm somewhat surprised by this for two reasons:

First, my hunch, and this article backs it up, is that CFB fans are right-of-center.  There is a graph on page four that shows various sports fanbases by their Republican/Democrat leaning and their typical turnout:
I'd venture this is more due to other demographics favoring CFB. First, the "power" teams are often located in red states. You've got the South, you've got the upper Midwest (rust belt that was formerly red although is more purple these days), and you've got the central swath from Nebraska down to Texas. 

Out here on the Left coast, and in the mid-Atlantic to Northeast states, college football is not nearly as popular. 

Couple that with the fact that college football fandom is more rural in general, whereas pro sports and the NFL are more aligned with big metro areas, and rural areas skew more to the right. Boston is all about the Pats, not BC. NYC is all about the Giants and Jets, not Rutger and Syracuse. DC is about the Redskins, not about UMD. Chicago is about the Bears, not the Wildcats. LA is a mess in general, but it's a Rams town now. SF is about the 49ers, and doesn't care about Stanford all that much. And while Seattle has UDub local, it's still all about the Seahawks. So the biggest metro areas that would skew things blue are more interested in the local NFL teams than the local-ish NCAA teams.

So if the biggest CFB programs and fan bases just tend to geographically align with the reddest [rural] parts of the reddest states, it makes perfect sense that CFB fandom would skew to the right. 

I guess you can see why I'm confused what's allowed around here and what's not. 

Also, apparently I'm a "global moderator."  What exactly does that mean?  Does that mean there are peons here who have to get my coffee? 
I do think we've been walking a fine line around here. 

For me, and I said this last week, there are topics that are politics-adjacent that are interesting to delve into but they're not really "political debate". However, there are certain political "third rail" issues--or perhaps discussion specifically about certain politicians--that can quickly destroy dialogue and turn it ugly. 

A more academic discussion about why certain sports may skew certain directions politically is a different thing than having a political debate...

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« Reply #151 on: October 30, 2019, 02:16:33 PM »
So here's some reality for OSU, and a couple others.

I think it was back around 2013 or so, LSU and Florida players took to twitter to start arguing about who is DBU, a pointless yet ongoing spat.  Recently I've seen OSU enter the fray (which is kinda rude, nobody invited you to our BBQ).  Not OSU players, mind you....the actual school started putting stuff out comparing selective numbers.  They also think they're DBU.

The real question is:  why isn't Alabama ever included in that discussion?  Those guys have had a number of very impressive DBs over the last several years, particularly safeties.  They routinely field one of the most productive and talented secondaries, and they're as high a profile team as it gets.  I'm surprised you don't hear more about them....especially from them.  I mean, claiming titles they want to be true is kind of their thing. 
Everyone knows real BBQ is in Texas and DB U is the U of Texas-Austin
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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #152 on: October 30, 2019, 02:24:31 PM »
I agree there is real BBQ in Texas (and of course in other places).

I'm content for each school to call itself DBU.  I'm also content for someone to note that their program has turned out a lot of players at one position who have been very good.  It's akin, for me, to "top ten beaches".  Fine with me, there is someone's list.  I could well personally find that some other beach was more to my liking.

Don't get me started on wine ratings.

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« Reply #153 on: October 30, 2019, 02:33:32 PM »
Everyone knows real BBQ is in Texas and DB U is the U of Texas-Austin
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