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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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utee94

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1218 on: September 27, 2020, 09:06:53 PM »
Pro sports are easy.  Unless you are a pile of dipshits like the Marlins and Cardinals (who should both have forfeited all postponed games), it's easy.

College kids are young, clustered and stupid.  That said, they have showed remarkable maturity, better than a good chunk of "but MA LIBERTIIIIIEEESSS" adults, and should be commended.  I actually think we are going to make it.
I haven't noticed college-age kids doing any better than any particular other segment of the population.  In fact, here in Austin and many other college towns, the "new cases" statistics indicate that they're doing worse than all other segments.

They're just not ending up in the hospital because this virus simply isn't affecting younger people as dramatically as older people.  It's really not affecting them much at all, statistically.  


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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1219 on: September 27, 2020, 09:39:19 PM »
Georgia State didn't need to postpone its game on Saturday at Charlotte after all.

On Sunday, the school announced that the postponement was the result of COVID-19 tests that were read incorrectly.

The game has not been rescheduled.

Georgia State received the incorrect results from Thursday's tests as it was preparing to leave for Charlotte on Friday, prompting the postponement of the game. The incorrect results showed four positive individuals and contact tracing identified 17 others, including one coach, who would require quarantining.

According to Georgia State athletic director Charlie Cobb, those in question were retested on Friday, and that night all their results came back negative. Thursday's swabs were restested and came back negative as well.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1220 on: September 27, 2020, 11:24:39 PM »
I haven't noticed college-age kids doing any better than any particular other segment of the population.  In fact, here in Austin and many other college towns, the "new cases" statistics indicate that they're doing worse than all other segments.

They're just not ending up in the hospital because this virus simply isn't affecting younger people as dramatically as older people.  It's really not affecting them much at all, statistically. 


College kids vs. college football players.  I could be wrong, but I think the football players are largely doing a better ish job than their fellow students.  Not judging, I was a 20 year old idiot too

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1221 on: September 28, 2020, 12:34:49 AM »
College kids vs. college football players.  I could be wrong, but I think the football players are largely doing a better ish job than their fellow students.  Not judging, I was a 20 year old idiot too

I don't know, your message was confused when you took a random shot at "muh liberties" people.

Are you talking about college kids, college athletes, or the general public?

It just seemed like a really weird tangent and I responded with my thoughts on just how college kids stack up against the people that you, apparently, consider to be beneath you or something.  That's something I expect of another crazily agenda-driven poster around here, but not you.  It was... surprising.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1222 on: September 28, 2020, 03:00:06 AM »
Well, that's completely different.  Honestly, if college football players continue on their present trajectory, which requires them to be more mature than a bunch of dumbass, mask-ridiculing adults, they all deserve a goddamned Heisman.  So far, so good.  And I think we all sold them short

It's still early.  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1223 on: September 28, 2020, 09:14:16 AM »
I don't know, your message was confused when you took a random shot at "muh liberties" people.

Are you talking about college kids, college athletes, or the general public?

It just seemed like a really weird tangent and I responded with my thoughts on just how college kids stack up against the people that you, apparently, consider to be beneath you or something.  That's something I expect of another crazily agenda-driven poster around here, but not you.  It was... surprising.
I expect college kids to do stupid college kids things.  I expect adults to act like adults.  Outbreaks on college campuses are inevitable.  But I think thus far, the players have showed remarkable maturity compared to what my expectations for college kids are.  That could all go south, but thus far, I've been surprised, and impressed.  Likewise, I've been surprised and disappointed by the lack of maturity from far too many adults.  I assumed if a percentage of adults is engaging in stupid behavior, then the percentage of college kids doing the same, would be higher.  I don't think that's the case here.  Maybe among the general college population, but the players seem to be doing better.  Granted, once it's been 8 weeks, do they get sick of it, and go to a bar?  Maybe.  But considering we have grown ass adults going to strip clubs, and motorcycle rallies, and casinos, I didn't think college football would even make it this far.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1224 on: September 28, 2020, 09:20:21 AM »
We're on the positive side so far.
I'm pleased.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1225 on: September 28, 2020, 12:39:28 PM »
many grown ass adults never grew up

this is more apparent than ever in the midst of a pandemic

many college aged kids are more mature, not all or most, but some college aged kids had a decent upbringing
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1226 on: September 28, 2020, 01:30:04 PM »
I expect college kids to do stupid college kids things.  I expect adults to act like adults.  Outbreaks on college campuses are inevitable.  But I think thus far, the players have showed remarkable maturity compared to what my expectations for college kids are.  That could all go south, but thus far, I've been surprised, and impressed.  Likewise, I've been surprised and disappointed by the lack of maturity from far too many adults.  I assumed if a percentage of adults is engaging in stupid behavior, then the percentage of college kids doing the same, would be higher.  I don't think that's the case here.  Maybe among the general college population, but the players seem to be doing better.  Granted, once it's been 8 weeks, do they get sick of it, and go to a bar?  Maybe.  But considering we have grown ass adults going to strip clubs, and motorcycle rallies, and casinos, I didn't think college football would even make it this far.

The college-aged kids in many college towns are showing case rates much, much higher than the adult populations in those same geographical areas.  So I still don't see what you're getting at.

I do agree that many football players seem to be handling it better than the general population, which serves to confirm our speculation from a few months ago that being in a closely monitored environment, with greater incentive to avoid infection, would be a better place for football players, than canceling the season and throwing them into the general population of college kids.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1227 on: September 28, 2020, 01:44:54 PM »
CFB players have considerable incentive to be careful, and they get reminded constantly.  College kids, not so much.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1228 on: September 28, 2020, 01:46:02 PM »
The college-aged kids in many college towns are showing case rates much, much higher than the adult populations in those same geographical areas.  
That's what I said.  That these football players should be commended.  Stupid college kids are acting like stupid college kids, and unfortunately too many adults are also acting like stupid college kids, but the football players seem to be doing better.  Particularly considering how many more asymptomatic cases are likely being picked up due to mandatory testing, compared to the population at large.

Whatever the bar of rational behavior is, college kids generally come in under that.  And the bar for irrational behavior among adults, during a pandemic, is so horrifically lower than I would have expected, that I would have expected college kids not to have a prayer.  Thus far, they've largely lived up to my expectations.  Except the football players, who have done a commendable job.  It took MLB players like a week before going to a strip club or a casino.

And FTR, I was never for cancelling football if the kids were just going to be on campus anyway.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1229 on: September 28, 2020, 02:03:43 PM »
I do agree that many football players seem to be handling it better than the general population, which serves to confirm our speculation from a few months ago that being in a closely monitored environment, with greater incentive to avoid infection, would be a better place for football players, than canceling the season and throwing them into the general population of college kids.
this Ed Zachery...

the 100 man college rosters are not just safer, practicing and playing football, but much safer than not.
And I'll guess they are also much safer than staying at home off campus
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1230 on: September 28, 2020, 02:06:28 PM »
So, who would change their vote now that we're into a real season?

I'm more optimistic than I was.  I worry this surge predicted might happen though.

We were out and about today, had physical therapy, had to get batteries for key fobs, stopped and had Korean for lunch, stopped to get more liquor.  It almost feels normal now to wear a mask.  The PT lady is pretty fun, and the wife is there at the same time.


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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1231 on: September 28, 2020, 02:15:04 PM »
So, who would change their vote now that we're into a real season?

I'm more optimistic than I was.  I worry this surge predicted might happen though.
I'll eat my crow. This is going much more smoothly than I expected. 

 

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