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ELA

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1078 on: September 14, 2020, 08:09:11 AM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 14, 2020, 07:44:22 AM
I think the odds are improving.  One reporter, below, is hearing Michigan President Schlissel will change his vote to play.  Being an MD hopefully his vote will help others do the right thing.

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From a source this morning on whether Michigan's president will vote to play football: "He's trying to put out so many fires on campus that he just doesn't have the political capital to deny sports, especially when the blowback was far greater than I think anyone expected."

10:27 AM ยท Sep 13, 2020
Nothing about changing his decision seems to be related to him being an MD.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1079 on: September 14, 2020, 08:22:11 AM »
Breaking news, Sweden continues to report few cases and hospitalizations.  Film at 11.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/183943/us-carbon-dioxide-emissions-from-1999/

Single digit deaths per day, about 300 or so new cases per day.

Georgia, the state, it around 1,500 new cases per day, slightly larger population, but down from a previous 3,800 cases per day a month ago.

There is more to this than just more folks wearing masks and staying home and government intercessions.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1080 on: September 14, 2020, 08:27:37 AM »
agreed

another example that the government cannot save us from ourselves
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1081 on: September 14, 2020, 08:54:15 AM »
I think at times "we" may underplay the role of government in "saving us from ourselves".

We largely have clean water to drink, safe food to eat, cleaner air to breathe, safer and better treatments for medical conditions, etc., things which are not always the case in other countries.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1082 on: September 14, 2020, 08:58:55 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on September 13, 2020, 10:47:47 PM
This is a good way to put it.
Yup.  Granted they could have done this all along.  Doing it now involves swallowing their pride, which powerful people tend to be unable to do.

I'm not convinced this thing is going to work, ultimately the right decision may be to cancel it.  But they could have simply delayed and monitored from the start, and they didn't, so announcing now that they are delaying and monitoring will involve them admitting they played it wrong.  Are the capable fo doing that?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1083 on: September 14, 2020, 09:02:22 AM »
They have always used the term "postponed" right?

This wouldn't be reversing that decision if they postpone the start until late October, or even next Saturday.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1084 on: September 14, 2020, 09:04:46 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 14, 2020, 08:54:15 AM
I think at times "we" may underplay the role of government in "saving us from ourselves".

We largely have clean water to drink, safe food to eat, cleaner air to breathe, safer and better treatments for medical conditions, etc., things which are not always the case in other countries.


I will agree that government helps somewhat in these areas.
smart folks that don't work for the government or are not forced by the government seem to stumble onto these things w/o much help most of the time
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1085 on: September 14, 2020, 09:12:36 AM »
The absence of government would be anarchy.  If we set this as binary, you either have it, or you don't.  Not having it would be bad IMHO.

One can of course argue about how it would best be limited in scope and powers, as did the FFs.  But I think SOME government is essential.  It does do some things that we need done and would not be likely to be done in the private sector.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1086 on: September 14, 2020, 09:31:57 AM »
Quote from: ELA on September 14, 2020, 08:58:55 AM
I'm not convinced this thing is going to work, ultimately the right decision may be to cancel it. 
I don't think the fans, or the players, give a flying fart if it "works". They're making the damn omelet, and they don't care how many eggs get broken.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1087 on: September 14, 2020, 10:09:09 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on September 14, 2020, 09:31:57 AM
I don't think the fans, or the players, give a flying fart if it "works". They're making the damn omelet, and they don't care how many eggs get broken.

I guess it depends on your definition of it "working" is, or is not.  What are the metrics to evaluate if it's working, or not working?

If it's simply cases, then yeah, it's not going to work.

If it's actual sick people, well, that could look different.  We'll know more in two weeks I suppose.


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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1088 on: September 14, 2020, 10:56:01 AM »
The BTN is airing a Michigan-Florida bowl game, and the Wolverines are decked out in all Maize from head to toe. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1089 on: September 14, 2020, 11:07:48 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 14, 2020, 10:09:09 AM
I guess it depends on your definition of it "working" is, or is not.  What are the metrics to evaluate if it's working, or not working?

If it's simply cases, then yeah, it's not going to work.

If it's actual sick people, well, that could look different.  We'll know more in two weeks I suppose.
I think it's more along the lines that as long as there aren't deaths, it's "working".

Err, as long as there aren't deaths to starters, I mean.

Err, as long as there aren't deaths to starters on P5 teams.

Err, as long as there aren't deaths to first-round lock starters on CFP-caliber teams.

Yeah, that last one. As long as there isn't that, nobody cares and they'll play football. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1090 on: September 14, 2020, 11:08:21 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on September 14, 2020, 10:56:01 AM
The BTN is airing a Michigan-Florida bowl game, and the Wolverines are decked out in all Maize from head to toe.
how very Oregon of them
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1091 on: September 14, 2020, 11:11:05 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on September 14, 2020, 11:07:48 AM
I think it's more along the lines that as long as there aren't deaths, it's "working".

Err, as long as there aren't deaths to starters, I mean.

Err, as long as there aren't deaths to starters on P5 teams.

Err, as long as there aren't deaths to first-round lock starters on CFP-caliber teams.

Yeah, that last one. As long as there isn't that, nobody cares and they'll play football.
why dont we just hold our judgement until theres something to judge
there have been positive cases and there will be more so either we try to deal with it or we dont
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