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FearlessF

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1064 on: September 12, 2020, 08:35:22 PM »
from Steve Sipple.............. Lincoln Journal Star

I don't want to get overly dramatic here. That gets old. But it's safe to say the folks who are against college athletes playing football are concerned about survival. They are concerned about the safety of student-athletes. They are concerned about student-athletes spreading COVID-19 into communities where folks with underlying conditions are especially vulnerable.

Then there's the discussion about how many fans should be allowed in stadiums.

In that regard, there was a bit of news in our neck of the woods Friday. While Lancaster County's coronavirus restrictions in outdoor venues still will limit crowds to 75 percent of capacity, the health department is raising the maximum number of people allowed from 10,000 to 30,000. That indicates the University of Nebraska could have up to 30,000 fans at Memorial Stadium if and when it hosts a football game.


I don't think the timing of the change is coincidental.

To wit: The Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors appears headed toward a new vote — perhaps as soon as Sunday — on whether to have a football season. According to multiple reports, the conference could begin play as soon as Oct. 17, thanks largely to the development of daily rapid testing for COVID-19. Rapid testing largely eliminates the inherent headaches of contact tracing. That's the key. 

A green light to start the season Oct. 17 probably would assuage Nebraska officials, but only to a certain extent. Remember, the Huskers wanted to be playing this month. NU coach Scott Frost has maintained all along his players were safe because of the aggressive manner in which his program worked to set up guidelines and protocols designed to limit the virus's threat.


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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1065 on: September 12, 2020, 10:41:07 PM »
Texas Tech up just 21-13 on Houston Baptist halfway through the 3rd. Kansas down 7-0 to Coastal Carolina early.  Good Lord, Big 12.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1066 on: September 12, 2020, 11:12:00 PM »
Houston Baptist.....good baseball program.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1067 on: September 12, 2020, 11:47:45 PM »
I briefly followed the ribbon playing at the bottom of the screen on ESPN today, and saw quite a few examples of football teams whose seasons are being played having difficulties controlling the virus. We are just one week into the season. If I were voting, I would vote to defer decision two more weeks and see where this thing is going. As I said in a previous post, the Big Ten is at an advantage here. It gets the opportunity to view the results of the guinea pigs that are playing and if it takes advantage of viewing those results the correct answer will come into focus. 

As a young lawyer who litigates, the most difficult thing I had to learn, was to live with a great deal of uncertainty. Living with uncertainty is now part of the job, but it doesn't get much easier with age. Live a few more weeks with uncertainty, and let the young men practice in pads, before we see where this goes. With the pandemic especially present in Iowa, and in Ames and in Iowa City especially, I just do not see how we justify a season, unless the football players are socially distancing and maybe even doing remote learning only.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1068 on: September 13, 2020, 12:18:19 AM »
Quote from: Kris60 on September 12, 2020, 10:41:07 PM
Texas Tech up just 21-13 on Houston Baptist halfway through the 3rd. Kansas down 7-0 to Coastal Carolina early.  Good Lord, Big 12.
WVU and Texas did alright. 

Seeing as how I didn't think we'd have any college football at all this Fall, and the sad sacks in the B1G won't get to see their teams play, I'm feeling pretty good about today.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1069 on: September 13, 2020, 06:09:11 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on September 12, 2020, 11:47:45 PM
I briefly followed the ribbon playing at the bottom of the screen on ESPN today, and saw quite a few examples of football teams whose seasons are being played having difficulties controlling the virus. We are just one week into the season. If I were voting, I would vote to defer decision two more weeks and see where this thing is going. As I said in a previous post, the Big Ten is at an advantage here. It gets the opportunity to view the results of the guinea pigs that are playing and if it takes advantage of viewing those results the correct answer will come into focus.

As a young lawyer who litigates, the most difficult thing I had to learn, was to live with a great deal of uncertainty. Living with uncertainty is now part of the job, but it doesn't get much easier with age. Live a few more weeks with uncertainty, and let the young men practice in pads, before we see where this goes. With the pandemic especially present in Iowa, and in Ames and in Iowa City especially, I just do not see how we justify a season, unless the football players are socially distancing and maybe even doing remote learning only.
One thing is for certain watching the Big 12 - don't try and add one off noncon games to warm up for the season
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1070 on: September 13, 2020, 07:31:02 AM »
Some interesting games, better than I figured.  GaTech edged Florida State, which probably means the latter is not very good either.  A lot of mistakes on both sides, as expected.  UNC pulled away from Syracuse, a lot of mistakes on both sides.

I have to tip the ol' hat to Mack Brown.  UNC looks like a football team rather than what I was seeing, arm tacking, woosh tackling, nontackling, under the old regime.  Their QB has an arm and some presence.  Still spotty on talent elsewhere.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1071 on: September 13, 2020, 08:30:30 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on September 12, 2020, 11:47:45 PM
I briefly followed the ribbon playing at the bottom of the screen on ESPN today, and saw quite a few examples of football teams whose seasons are being played having difficulties controlling the virus. We are just one week into the season. If I were voting, I would vote to defer decision two more weeks and see where this thing is going. As I said in a previous post, the Big Ten is at an advantage here. It gets the opportunity to view the results of the guinea pigs that are playing and if it takes advantage of viewing those results the correct answer will come into focus.
I think the Big Ten can do exactly this if they come out of the meeting saying the season "could" start on Oct. 17th.

Prepare as though your team will play on the 17th.  If things go bad in 3 weeks it's easy to cancel
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1072 on: September 13, 2020, 08:49:47 AM »
That would be a good position I think.  There is obvious evidence this could be going off the rails.

But it is still possible they can continue to play with "manageable" outages and some ppds.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1073 on: September 13, 2020, 08:52:16 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 13, 2020, 07:31:02 AM
Some interesting games, better than I figured.  GaTech edged Florida State, which probably means the latter is not very good either.  A lot of mistakes on both sides, as expected.  UNC pulled away from Syracuse, a lot of mistakes on both sides.

I have to tip the ol' hat to Mack Brown.  UNC looks like a football team rather than what I was seeing, arm tacking, woosh tackling, nontackling, under the old regime.  Their QB has an arm and some presence.  Still spotty on talent elsewhere.
Yup, I like Mack Brown and am glad to see him doing good things at UNC.  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1074 on: September 13, 2020, 10:47:47 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 13, 2020, 08:30:30 AM
I think the Big Ten can do exactly this if they come out of the meeting saying the season "could" start on Oct. 17th.

Prepare as though your team will play on the 17th.  If things go bad in 3 weeks it's easy to cancel
This is a good way to put it.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1075 on: September 13, 2020, 11:28:45 PM »
I think the wait 2 weeks, then see strategy is the mistake our country made starting at the end of May.  


Set a date, everyone behaves, things look better.  The date passes, people get lax, and it all goes to hell.  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1076 on: September 14, 2020, 12:05:12 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 13, 2020, 11:28:45 PM
I think the wait 2 weeks, then see strategy is the mistake our country made starting at the end of May. 


Set a date, everyone behaves, things look better.  The date passes, people get lax, and it all goes to hell. 
Johns Hopkins has Iowa as #5 per capita in recent cases. Iowa #1 last week. Our rural county continues its spike. I can give more details, but will keep it under wraps, as much as I want to lash out at those responsible. I will say this, a mask is a miniscule inconvenience. Getting shot at and captured by the Japanese or Germans in WW-II, was an infringement on our liberty. We had the greatest generation alive within my memory, and I am not sure what to call the present generation, but we are not great. Think about the people around you. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1077 on: September 14, 2020, 07:44:22 AM »
I think the odds are improving.  One reporter, below, is hearing Michigan President Schlissel will change his vote to play.  Being an MD hopefully his vote will help others do the right thing.




Michael Spath


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From a source this morning on whether Michigan's president will vote to play football: "He's trying to put out so many fires on campus that he just doesn't have the political capital to deny sports, especially when the blowback was far greater than I think anyone expected."

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