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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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bayareabadger

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #994 on: September 10, 2020, 12:53:32 AM »
What pay day? if your not playing, your not getting paid.
Sure. If the Big Ten doesn't play football forever more, you're not. 

But it'll probably play football again. And it's still the second-best deal in town by a large margin. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #995 on: September 10, 2020, 09:09:36 AM »

OSU is now having voluntary workouts, that NCAA says they can't have supervision; so no medical staff to take daily wellness checks. That's a statement of fact.
If they are not playing, they don't get routine covid tested. That's a statement of fact.
If they are not playing, they are only allowed to have 12 hours of supervised practice, anything more than that is an NCAA violation. That is a statement of fact.
They are no longer semi-quarantined and in a structured, monitored environment; they don't get access to on site medical staff. Whether at home or on campus, they have to go through the same channels the rest of the populace does. This is a statement of fact.
Because the vast majority of us do not utilize free time nearly as efficient as we do structured time. Being left to decide how we spend our day is more likely to lead to exposure than staying in a structure environment. This is a statement of opinion, but one shared by many others.

How does the broke athletic department justify paying for the services that they can't justify providing to the rest of the student population? I'd love to have that 3rd option, and I'd for that 3rd option to be available to my loved ones, and even you guys on the forum. But's it's Neverland. If they are not playing they no longer get (as) special treatment.



I've not heard that athletic department medical staff are not working.  I'd guess Frost is making use of all 12 hours a week permitted by the NCAA.  If the team is participating in 12 hours of practice each week, I'd guess medical staff is working with players and players could be getting tested for the virus.  Heck, many on campus students that are not athletes are getting tested.
the Husker's athletic department is of course taking a hit, but it's certainly not broke.

the football team isn't playing, but they are practicing 12 hours - it's structured with support staff
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #997 on: September 10, 2020, 11:18:43 AM »
Because the 3rd isn't a viable option.
OSU is now having voluntary workouts, that NCAA says they can't have supervision; so no medical staff to take daily wellness checks. That's a statement of fact.
If they are not playing, they don't get routine covid tested. That's a statement of fact.
If they are not playing, they are only allowed to have 12 hours of supervised practice, anything more than that is an NCAA violation. That is a statement of fact.
They are no longer semi-quarantined and in a structured, monitored environment; they don't get access to on site medical staff. Whether at home or on campus, they have to go through the same channels the rest of the populace does. This is a statement of fact.
Because the vast majority of us do not utilize free time nearly as efficient as we do structured time. Being left to decide how we spend our day is more likely to lead to exposure than staying in a structure environment. This is a statement of opinion, but one shared by many others.

How does the broke athletic department justify paying for the services that they can't justify providing to the rest of the student population? I'd love to have that 3rd option, and I'd for that 3rd option to be available to my loved ones, and even you guys on the forum. But's it's Neverland. If they are not playing they no longer get (as) special treatment.
OSU isn't allowed to cry poor. 

Is there anything that the NCAA has said that suggests OSU is barred from continuing to provide medical services to athletes? I realize there are much different rules for supervised practice with COACHES, but I've seen nothing that says that the schools are barred from providing medical services, COVID testing, etc, just because they're not in an active period. 

Now, I agree that if they're not preparing for a season, they may not have as much incentive to self-quarantine and avoid exposure, because the "cost" of getting COVID isn't as high. But the flipside of that is that they control their OWN exposure, whereas if they're actively playing football it's a lowest-common-denominator of the other 200 players (85+walk-ons for each team) and coaches.  

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #999 on: September 10, 2020, 12:41:58 PM »
Is it really a season?  No post-season, no NC game.  It's a series of scrimmages.  What is the plan for fan attendance?

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1000 on: September 10, 2020, 12:50:12 PM »
Horns are planning 25% capacity
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1001 on: September 10, 2020, 12:52:27 PM »
Huh?  Season has already begun. Horns play on Saturday.

Hook 'em! :)
On which network?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1002 on: September 10, 2020, 01:30:31 PM »
On which network?
No idea, probably LHN or ESPN?

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1003 on: September 10, 2020, 01:31:31 PM »
Is it really a season?  No post-season, no NC game.  It's a series of scrimmages.  What is the plan for fan attendance?
Why would you say there's no post-season and no NC game?  Right now it's all systems go for both of those things.  

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1004 on: September 10, 2020, 01:32:29 PM »
LHN

the Cyclones are playing on ESPN

Sooners not televised?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1005 on: September 10, 2020, 01:34:28 PM »
LHN

the Cyclones are playing on ESPN

Sooners not televised?
No idea.  I don't usually sully myself watching the toothless hordes.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1006 on: September 10, 2020, 05:58:13 PM »
Politics.  It’s going to set our conference back 5-7 years. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #1007 on: September 10, 2020, 06:24:34 PM »
Politics.  It’s going to set our conference back 5-7 years.
I don't think it's that dramatic.  The short term is going to be rough, but it's going to be rough for everyone.  Even schools that are attempting to play football this Fall are making dramatic cuts to their athletic departments.

Tomorrow will be a brighter day.

And by tomorrow, I mean next year.  

And by day, I mean year.

And by... oh shoot screw it, you know what I mean.

 

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