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GopherRock

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« Reply #1050 on: February 14, 2022, 11:16:30 AM »
The defensive holding that started the penalty parade was absolutely correct. Two hand shove by a defender not playing the ball. 

Also, just about all of the best QBs are in the AFC. Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Burrow, Mac Jones with an excellent situation for a rookie, Lamar Jackson.

The QB situation in the NFC is dreadful. Rodgers, Stafford if he doesn't retire, maybe Dak, and 11 rotten tomato cans. 

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« Reply #1051 on: February 14, 2022, 11:17:42 AM »
Disagree with that. Two of the calls were bad and wrong, which is doubly annoying after they let stuff go for most of the game. And the one they got right they literally didn't call on Ramsey earlier in the game, which kept the Bengals out of the end zone.
well one of the TD's that Bengals got was a seriously flagrant OPI that the refs missed. Hard to blame the refs when the Bengals OL got utterly destroyed in the 2nd half. Burrow is literally going to die if that shit-sandwich of an OL isn't fixed ASAP. Dude got sacked 71 times this year including playoffs.

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« Reply #1052 on: February 14, 2022, 11:20:24 AM »
The defensive holding that started the penalty parade was absolutely correct. Two hand shove by a defender not playing the ball.

Also, just about all of the best QBs are in the AFC. Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Burrow, Mac Jones with an excellent situation for a rookie, Lamar Jackson.

The QB situation in the NFC is dreadful. Rodgers, Stafford if he doesn't retire, maybe Dak, and 11 rotten tomato cans.
shoot that's a great point. NFC has Russell Wilson- he's better than Dak. Basically just Rodgers, Stafford, and Wilson. Rodgers might retire and Wilson is stuck on a pretty bad team. 

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« Reply #1053 on: February 14, 2022, 11:20:43 AM »
well one of the TD's that Bengals got was a seriously flagrant OPI that the refs missed. Hard to blame the refs when the Bengals OL got utterly destroyed in the 2nd half. Burrow is literally going to die if that shit-sandwich of an OL isn't fixed ASAP. Dude got sacked 71 times this year including playoffs.
It's not hard to blame the refs when they screw something up. Everyone went on and on about the missed facemask, which the refs didn't call because they didn't see it. But when they call two things that didn't happen, suddenly it's a tough job. Whatever, as a Bengals fan I've seen them lose in every way imaginable. It would have been nice to not have the game gifted away.

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« Reply #1054 on: February 14, 2022, 11:22:45 AM »
About every close game has close calls that could have altered the outcome.

I imagine they could call offensive holding on nearly every play.   They call it when the arms get extended.

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« Reply #1055 on: February 14, 2022, 11:37:08 AM »
shoot that's a great point. NFC has Russell Wilson- he's better than Dak. Basically just Rodgers, Stafford, and Wilson. Rodgers might retire and Wilson is stuck on a pretty bad team.
Russell Wilson has played himself into one of the 11 tomato cans. When the Packers trade Rodgers, he needs to demand a trade to the Niners. That might get them over the hump.

The AFC of the 20s is going to be like that of the 70s: one in which John Madden can go 103-30 and only get to (but win) 1 Super Bowl. 

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« Reply #1056 on: February 14, 2022, 11:41:28 AM »
It's not hard to blame the refs when they screw something up. Everyone went on and on about the missed facemask, which the refs didn't call because they didn't see it. But when they call two things that didn't happen, suddenly it's a tough job. Whatever, as a Bengals fan I've seen them lose in every way imaginable. It would have been nice to not have the game gifted away.
hear what you're saying, but I'm typically against blaming the refs. OL has been a major issue for the Bengals for last two years with Burrow. He practically got killed last year because of the shitty OL, which is why he missed a chunk of the season with the ACL. They didn't fix the OL the past off-season, and it reared it's ugly head in the most important game of the year. That OL got killed 2nd half and Burrow took an ass-whooping. 

Bengals win that game if they have a real-life OL and Burrow has time in the 2nd half imo. They need to go all-in on an OL and they'll be right back in the Super Bowl and Burrow will win them the game. Brady, Peyton, Rodgers - you name it- none of them won Super Bowls when their OL got rag-dolled. Maybe the best team ever- and definitely Brady's greatest team ever- the '07 Patriots lost the Super Bowl because Brady was getting his ass kicked by the Giants DL. Pats OL got destroyed that game. No QB can win when he's in the dirt most of the game and taking kill shot after kill shot.

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« Reply #1057 on: February 14, 2022, 11:52:11 AM »
16, well now 17 games isn't that long compared to the other sports.

MLB, NHL, and NBA are nuts. 162 games in MLB and 82 in NBA and NHL. WTF? And then the playoffs are best of 7 series. Gtfo with that bullshit.
17 games = 4+ months on the calendar which is plenty long enough to lose interest, when so many of them are meaningless.

So like other sports with largely meaningless regular seasons, I don't really tune in until the playoffs.

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« Reply #1058 on: February 14, 2022, 11:57:24 AM »
17 games = 4+ months on the calendar which is plenty long enough to lose interest, when so many of them are meaningless.

So like other sports with largely meaningless regular seasons, I don't really tune in until the playoffs.
hear what you're saying and I mostly agree. I'll watch maybe 8-9-10 games of an NFL team. Or at least I used to. 

Not watching 50 NBA games or 100 MLB games. F that. 

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« Reply #1059 on: February 14, 2022, 12:01:28 PM »
Disagree with that. Two of the calls were bad and wrong, which is doubly annoying after they let stuff go for most of the game. And the one they got right they literally didn't call on Ramsey earlier in the game, which kept the Bengals out of the end zone.

This. The two separate games, the first 58 minutes and then the last last two minutes. (sometimes longer if the one team is down by more than a score.) I've noticed refs at both levels call the game differently in the last 2 minutes. 

With 1:25 left and the Bengals with the ball, my wife proclaimed the game was over. I replied, "No way, they have 3 timeouts and the Refs are going to gift them 30 if not 45 yards." Nope refs swallowed their whistles again. On the last 2 plays I saw 3 wide receivers getting held, but no calls. 

The refs missed numerous calls. Blatant, significant arms extended holding calls, pass interference calls, that ridiculous facemask no call etc. They only called 2 penalties (and one was for a non-uniformed player running onto the field) in the first 58 minutes, then make 5 calls in 35 seconds. If leaves a bad taste, right or wrong. But when they change how they are calling the game and do it wrong, if feels rigged. There was this narrative that the refs were going to let them play. Then with the game on the line, they called an offense initiated patty cake call. They called a phantom roughing penalty?!? It's frustrating.

After that rant, I do think the better team won. Congrats to St. Louis, I mean the team stolen from St. Louis. And when Cincinnati did grab the momentum in the the 3rd quarter, they couldn't get more than a 7 point lead leaving the door open for what felt like the refs to swing the outcome to the Billion Dollar Home team. Overall, it was good enough game for me to watch it till the end, which I guess is what everybody wants. I hope Cincinnati can radically improve their O-Line. Burrow is special. 

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« Reply #1060 on: February 14, 2022, 12:11:14 PM »
 Congrats to St. Louis, I mean the team stolen from St. Louis. 
Why are you congratulating the Cardinals?  

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« Reply #1061 on: February 14, 2022, 02:55:09 PM »
Congrats to St. Louis, I mean the team stolen from St. Louis. 


You mean the team that St. Louis first stole away from Los Angeles? 

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« Reply #1062 on: February 14, 2022, 02:57:25 PM »

You mean the team that St. Louis first stole away from Los Angeles?
yeah, but they sucked ass in LA for most of the 80s and 90s. At least in St. Louis they became a mini-dynasty and the most exciting offense to watch maybe ever with Marshall Faulk, Issac Bruce, Torry Holt, and Az-Hakim. Talk about serious speed and explosiveness at the skill positions.

And actually - it was LA who stole them initially. From Cleveland.

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« Reply #1063 on: February 14, 2022, 03:21:45 PM »
I feel like at least one of those was a make-up call for the blatant uncalled OPI-facemask that resulted in a Cincy touchdown.  I don't agree with the idea of make-up calls, but the refs are only human and all it took was one brief glance at the replay screens to understand that was a bad and potentially game-deciding missed call.

maybe I am naïve but in all my years of officiating, I have never made a make-up call nor have have I known as single other official who have done it.

You make a bad call and you move on and do your best not to have it happen again. 

 

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