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Topic: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2018, 03:16:11 PM »
D-Day (Bruce McGill): "War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one

Bluto: What? Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!...

It ain't over now, 'cause when the goin' gets tough, the tough get goin'. Who's with me? Let's go! Come on!...(He ran to the front door but no one followed him)

Bluto (returning): What the f--k happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. 'Ooh, we're afraid to go with you, Bluto, we might get in trouble.' (shouting) Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...

Otter (Tim Matheson): Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons. That could take years and cost millions of lives. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.

We're just the guys to do it...LET'S DO IT!
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2018, 04:34:09 PM »
I took Nebraska in stupid upset picks.

I don't actually think the Cornhuskers are going to win in Ann Arbor but:
1) I think Michigan may be a tad overrated. Notre Dame is 3-0 but they have been barely scraping by with close wins over bad teams since their close win over Michigan. That makes Michigan's loss to them look worse, IMHO.
2) I'm hoping Nebraska bounces back.
3) I'm already way behind in stupid upsets so I feel like I need to take some risks in an effort to catch up.

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2018, 04:53:57 PM »
Michigan running backs coach Jay Harbaugh met with the media on Wednesday, and he says that he expects both of the Wolverines’ star tailbacks, Karan Higdon and Chris Evans, to play against the Cornhuskers.

“It’s what we expect, yeah,” Harbaugh said. About Evans, he continued: “I don’t know the medical term. It’s like a tweak, strain-ish, type of thing.”
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2018, 05:25:29 PM »
1) I think Michigan may be a tad overrated. Notre Dame is 3-0 but they have been barely scraping by with close wins over bad teams since their close win over Michigan. That makes Michigan's loss to them look worse, IMHO.

I tentatively agree, though I am mostly waiting for their Stanford game before deciding.
Either way, I'd really like to have that game back. The Wimbush from that game is not the one that viewers had ever seen - whether viewing last year or since. And the game was decided by his picture-perfect throws into great coverage. Level of replicability? We'll see.

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2018, 05:49:57 PM »
Sort of like that iowa from that game wasn't the same one that viewers had seen.Although JT was a contributing factor
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2018, 06:38:25 PM »
Sort of like that iowa from that game wasn't the same one that viewers had seen.Although JT was a contributing factor
*If* Michigan eventually comes together to prove itself as a great team, then yes it is like that. Even then, I suppose ND would have to be middle of the road for it to be a tight comparison. That weird OSU-Iowa game was weirder than weird.

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2018, 07:11:28 PM »
Patterson looks like the thrower M's been looking for from the little I've seen of him,makes good decisions,puts it in tight spots with some zing,should be the right guy
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2018, 07:20:07 PM »
1) I think Michigan may be a tad overrated. Notre Dame is 3-0 but they have been barely scraping by with close wins over bad teams since their close win over Michigan. That makes Michigan's loss to them look worse, IMHO.
Not sure I agree with this line of thinking. Notre Dame may well be overrated and they may have well beaten Michigan, but perspective please. It was the opening game of the season on the road, at night no less. We saw that Ohio State 2014 team. They lost at night at home to a Virginia Tech team that finished 7-6 and that OSU team went on to win a title. Not a good idea to over-react to the first couple weeks of a season one way or the other. Better to let things play out.
Ed Warriner is trying to remake an OL unit that was a disaster in 2017 and Shea Patterson was making his first start in a new offense with new receivers that he's never played in live action with. It takes time for an OL unit to gel and it takes time for a QB to develop that chemistry with receivers. That's all not going to happen game one, on the road at night. Add to that mix ND being fired up and Wimbush making magic on a couple deep throws that he normally never makes- and that's how you have 24-17. Like that 45 yard TD bomb that the little 5'9 white receiver jumped over the 6'2 safety Brad Hawkins in which he snatched away an INT from Hawkins and scored a TD- that stuff just doesn't happen most games- did in that one in that environment.
I will say this. Shea Patterson is by far the best QB that I've seen at Michigan under Harbaugh and he's the best QB they've had in a looooong time. That's not even remotely close. They have receiver talent up the wazoo with DPJ, Gentry, Perry, and Nico Collins, and it'll only improve that much more once Tarik Black is back from injury. Shea looks like the real deal to me. This season will all hinge on Ed Warriner being the real deal. He needs to get that OL unit playing at a functional level by midseason and playing it's best ball by the end of the season. He does that- Michigan will be just fine.

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2018, 08:12:08 PM »
Patterson looks like the thrower M's been looking for from the little I've seen of him,makes good decisions,puts it in tight spots with some zing,should be the right guy
I think so, too. His trajectory is on top of expectations so far, which is saying something. And the depth behind him is by far the best of the Harbaugh era (we're finally legit 3-deep and at the drop off in composure/productivity from Patterson to McCaffery is minimal -- albeit in limited snaps and McCaffery's arm isn't as strong, but he is promising in everything else).
It's all about November, though.
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2018, 08:22:31 PM »
I think so, too. His trajectory is on top of expectations so far, which is saying something. And the depth behind him is by far the best of the Harbaugh era (we're finally legit 3-deep and at the drop off in composure/productivity from Patterson to McCaffery is minimal -- albeit in limited snaps and McCaffery's arm isn't as strong, but he is promising in everything else).
It's all about November, though.
Patterson looks way better than I thought he would. Add to the fact that he's missing the teams top WR in Tarik Black due to injury and the fact that the OL has been a complete mess- it's even more impressive. Give that kid a legit OL and a healthy Tarik Black and open the playbook up and he'd smash every passing record at Michigan with ease.
His accuracy/ball placement and ability to throw accurately on the run is something I have quite frankly never seen at Michigan.

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2018, 08:22:38 PM »
It takes time for an OL unit to gel and it takes time for a QB to develop that chemistry with receivers. That's all not going to happen game one, on the road at night.
Injury aside, Shea was one of the bright spots against ND.
Add to that mix ND being fired up and Wimbush making magic on a couple deep throws that he normally never makes- and that's how you have 24-17. Like that 45 yard TD bomb that the little 5'9 white receiver jumped over the 6'2 safety Brad Hawkins in which he snatched away an INT from Hawkins and scored a TD- that stuff just doesn't happen most games- did in that one in that environment.
It was even worse than that. Brad Hawkins had the ball between his two hands, all to himself. But it bounced out when he hit the ground. However, despite *both* DBs' position to suffocate the WR and Hawkins's play on the ball, it bounced out of his hands in juuuuuuuuust the right way to be gently handed to the bread basket of the receiver who otherwise had no chance until then. That's chaos, karma, or ... something else. And if it's something else, then that something is not replicable, that's for sure.
I will say this. Shea Patterson is by far the best QB that I've seen at Michigan under Harbaugh and he's the best QB they've had in a looooong time. That's not even remotely close. They have receiver talent up the wazoo with DPJ, Gentry, Perry, and Nico Collins, and it'll only improve that much more once Tarik Black is back from injury. Shea looks like the real deal to me. This season will all hinge on Ed Warriner being the real deal. He needs to get that OL unit playing at a functional level by midseason and playing it's best ball by the end of the season. He does that- Michigan will be just fine.
Shea is basically a 5-star Tate Forcier ... who actually goes to class.
I didn't come up with that. It's going around a lot. But I agree with it. He's a gamer.
And it definitely all comes down to Warriner and the tackles. I like everything else about the offensive starters. The interior OL has been solid, though Ruiz has had a couple busts in pass pro and I'd like to see the young guy permanently grow out of that in the next few weeks. If he does, he could be better than Molk (next year).
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2018, 11:18:17 PM »
Not sure I agree with this line of thinking. Notre Dame may well be overrated and they may have well beaten Michigan, but perspective please. It was the opening game of the season on the road, at night no less. We saw that Ohio State 2014 team. They lost at night at home to a Virginia Tech team that finished 7-6 and that OSU team went on to win a title. Not a good idea to over-react to the first couple weeks of a season one way or the other. Better to let things play out.
Ed Warriner is trying to remake an OL unit that was a disaster in 2017 and Shea Patterson was making his first start in a new offense with new receivers that he's never played in live action with. It takes time for an OL unit to gel and it takes time for a QB to develop that chemistry with receivers. That's all not going to happen game one, on the road at night. Add to that mix ND being fired up and Wimbush making magic on a couple deep throws that he normally never makes- and that's how you have 24-17. Like that 45 yard TD bomb that the little 5'9 white receiver jumped over the 6'2 safety Brad Hawkins in which he snatched away an INT from Hawkins and scored a TD- that stuff just doesn't happen most games- did in that one in that environment.
I will say this. Shea Patterson is by far the best QB that I've seen at Michigan under Harbaugh and he's the best QB they've had in a looooong time. That's not even remotely close. They have receiver talent up the wazoo with DPJ, Gentry, Perry, and Nico Collins, and it'll only improve that much more once Tarik Black is back from injury. Shea looks like the real deal to me. This season will all hinge on Ed Warriner being the real deal. He needs to get that OL unit playing at a functional level by midseason and playing it's best ball by the end of the season. He does that- Michigan will be just fine.
Anything is possible. That ND/M game might have been a heavyweight bout between two serious playoff contenders. It also might have been a complete fluke in which mediocre ND pulled a miracle and knocked off serious playoff contender Michigan.
I just haven't seen enough out of either team so far to make me believe either of those things. I'll reassess as the season progresses. 

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #54 on: September 20, 2018, 12:10:37 AM »
Palabra.

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2018, 12:14:10 AM »
Meanwhile, by no means am I sure it's replicable, but no one here saw that bottom line coming:


https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1042469121353506816/photo/1

Caveats: He always had a real knack for run blocking. M didn't do much in the way of asking him to pass block on slow-developing routes. And his Big Ten competitors were prob crap last week.

 

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